Dayak – It is Change we must

41 Responses to “Dayak – It is Change we must”

1. Empelesik Sungai on July 16th, 2009 10:00 am

   This is definitely the direction, not Dayak bashing or the futile effort to place wedge against Chinese. It was futile because there is no Chinese or Malay or Dayak hatred here. A change is necessary for the long term survival of our children, a “better place” as Michael Jackson sang. Presently it s “better place” for a few.

   And the “generalisation” like Dayaks are drunks – that is hardly the truth without acceptable studies in place. But we have evidence of certain communities being marginalised. We have evidences on unfair treatment of Dayaks over their land. We have evidence that our MPs and ADUNs hardly voice the grouses of the Dayaks. Wre also have evidences of corruptions in the high places. And as I mentioned in another thread, there’s plenty of Baba Ali around. The conclusion is none other than the need to change.

   We must change.

2. CharcoalArt on July 16th, 2009 11:51 am

   It is good to see DJBA back in the discussion. I might be too quick to respond to his suggestions but my first reaction to the call for change would be “to change oneself first” and not everyone else. It is much easier to change yourself only; maybe selfish as it sounds. If every one of us Dayaks has changed then Dayaks have changed. You know that we all support the statistics. Thus let say every Dayaks are at least middle class people then people would say look at the Dayaks, they are all middle class. Similarly if many Dayaks are rich like the Chinese, then people will say look at the Dayaks, many of them are rich. The collective statistics will definitely be the bottom lines here.

   To try to change the Dayak mass through seminars and campaigns is very noble action. It is a caring action and effort to help the society. However (focus on problems here), as we could see, the first hurdle i.e. even before you could preach the changes, is to get enough volunteers for the seminars. The fact is that there are many “talk only” and fewer actions. I have heard many complaints that blamed the NATO and yet majority of us in this forum are as guilty. Thus is forcing us to attend and volunteer for talks or seminars on anything Dayaks really a solution? Is this really the right approach? Do we have the time and resources to be able to devote and partake in such noble efforts? Are the audiences all willing? To me these are questions that I am not able to convince myself. Of course we can say, please don’t think too much just do it – that’s exactly the opposite of NATO, but sad to say we are not all the same.

   Apart from Government Civics and seminars, I think DJBA and his colleagues are probably the only current active Dayaks who are willing to organise talks and seminars in the form of NGOs. I am sure these seminars are meaningful contributions to the society and provide encouraging assurances that there are people who really care.

   How much such seminars and talks impact the “change” to the Dayak people? I personally not sure – you have to excuse me as I am still unconverted. What I could see however is that such talks are just like during campaigning; you could say all the convincing words that you want but the guys who are present would still vote for someone else.

   In fact other influences such as internets, living environments (e.g. longhouse vs. town), Iban songs, craze dances like poco poco, etc. have far greater impact when come to changing the Dayak people. What does this tell us? It tells us that changes are more like “biology” that DJBA is talking about.

   If one Dayak buys a house in town, another Dayak would imitate his action and sooner it becomes a trend. This is like a social evolution that cannot be preached and expect to get instant results.

   The challenge to self changes or paradigm shift is enormous. You can tell them, show them, etc. but they can’t hear neither see. Then one fine day an apple drops on his head – whoa, the whole new paradigm is clearly visible.

   I believe if every Dayak individuals look after their own affairs successfully, hard as they are (that’s why we need Government assistances), they will contribute to the statistics. That’s should be enough motivations.

   So how does this success possible? Will the thousand of Dayaks in rural areas able to succeed in that sense? Certainly not all, it is impossible and we have to accept that. But for those Dayaks who are reasonably educated and make decent living they have better chances.

   I would think it is mainly the self motivation as the answer.

   If there are Dayaks who could set the trend and to provide many examples or success stories to other Dayaks – that would be more effective than by preaching the MBA theory to them. We need to know not only how but must have the ability, will and capacity to do it too. But then again there are Dayaks who are no longer being bound by “being Dayaks”, instead they stride in tandem with the others. Their motivations, aspirations and expectations are slightly different. Let say they see their neighbour drive the latest model 520i, then they might be inspired to get one too.

   Environment shape our aspirations. That’s why I have some issues with longhouses – truly regret that. But as you can see, my conviction is honest and sincere. It is how to see it

   Another example, there are more than 1000 Dayak graduates – let say all of these 1000 will one day have assets, saving, EPF, etc. worth One million Ringgit. Then we would have 1000 Dayak millionaires. It is the statistic that makes up the story. I guess you must be sick of my drip already.

   CA

3. Dyaks on July 16th, 2009 12:34 pm

   Seriously, there must be some joint-effort to register more Dayak voters in order to push the ‘Change’ message further. Here Dayak unions associations NGOs must work with Pakatan parties (and maybe with MAFREL also) to launch Dayak voter registration iniative. Use the slogan like “Jom Daftar Pengundi! Kita Semua Hapuskan BN!” or “Aram Meh Kitai Register Pengundi! Ngelaban BN, Ngelaban!”. The focus surely on large number of Dayak youths or rural Dayak folks that having difficulties to register due to distance or time. Apart from that, open seminar on voting rights, ethics, harrasment (nobody can force to take your IC) etc can be conducted in Dayak longhouses, village halls to better inform the Dayaks of self-belief that together we can kick BN once and for all.

   While Election Commission and BN will view this iniative suspiciously, it is understandable but why stop this kind of open charity work, it’s just to help fellow more Dayak to register as voters. So far, the voter’s registration effort by EC is either not really pro-active or rely on pull tactic to ask the public come forward to register rather than all-out push tactic encourage as much new registration coming in. If this issue shall be raised, both BN and Pakatan will scramble to do it but in the end, Dayak will benefits as more will be registered. Well, just an idea to share to Dayakbaru. Power to the Dayak youth, not the illegal Indon muppets secretly handed with fake mykad suddenly appeared as new mutiple BN voters.

4. KuncitMuncit on July 16th, 2009 12:54 pm

   “Organisations”,”Associations”,”Sarakup” or even social clubs require selfless,couragious,self-sacrificing,devoted,spirited and hardworking indivuals to form and manage:Individuals who are interested, concerned and care about and committed to the welfare and future of the Dayaks.Preferably individuals who are well-educated,well-informed, well-connected,knowledgable on government policies…and know how to manage an organisation,association,sarakup or club.Do we have Dayaks who satisfy ALL the criteria above!?
   Sadly NO!! A huge NO! NO!yang memalukan!!!(A)If they are well educated,knowledgable,sucessful,rich:they are selfish,self-centred,cowards with “couldn’t- care-less”, “hear nothing see nothing” attitude towards their fellow Dayaks. But there are,among the Dayaks,those who are interested and caring,concerned and spirited indiduals. But,pity, they lack higher education.They have limited knowledge on government policies,feel “malu” and(understably) “feel too small,too low and inadequate” to be the ones to form or lead an organisation,association,sarakup or even club.Enggai ke dituduh urang “tak luba-luba, ngenemu ke diri.”Like-wise they will shy away from associating themselves with their more sucessful, more educated, richer, and well-known fellow Dayaks. They are not “cowards”in these situations. Here their courage would be misplaced and somewhat,irrelevent. Ukai baka ke ngayau!

   So you see the dilemma and paralysis of the Dayak people!? Much of their failures and faults,inadequacies and lack of progress have their roots in the above-said.

   In wanting to form organisations,associations,sarakup…or anything that can group and unite as one force,one voice for the betterment of the Dayak, you will be sure to face obstacles>By whom!? By politicians.Not malay or chinese ones. By Dayak……..!!!

5. Mabel Rachel Maria on July 16th, 2009 1:03 pm

   Hello Doc,It good to hear from you again after a short break. We totally agreed with uncle CA that self motivation is the answer to the Change We Must.

   The motivation factors are clearly stated with ample examples by Uncle CA, if ones really see and appreciate its. We don’t want its to be realised by the Dayaks sooner or later,as Uncle CA put it in his own words, “Then one fine day an apple drops on his head – AKAI!, the whole new paradigm is clearly visible”…..and to us the launching pad is ever ready. Definitely, Revolutionary Change Of Mind is Indeed!

   Thanks you.
   We,Mabel,Rachel & Maria

6. Papung Engkilu on July 16th, 2009 4:15 pm

   “Change we must” is a mere rethoric and outdated slogan.Dayakbaru has been talking about the slogan since its inception years ago…but until now still no changes and nothing happening.Bila lagi? I am tired and sickening of this advertisment.

7. KuncitMuncit on July 16th, 2009 8:27 pm

   Both Doc JBA and CA gave workable ways and means that may effect change on the Dayaks. A two-pronged approach.There may be other ways that need to be explored!?

8. Panjai Runding Panjai Ruai on July 16th, 2009 8:52 pm

   I believe those Dayaks who are already classified as ‘middle class’ are no longer keen to give their inputs regarding CHANGE.Any change would mean the club would have more members and become crowded.

   It is not a mere rhetoric to most of us, as we do certainly feel that there should be some or alot of CHANGES to put us up to near par or on the same level with other more affluent Malaysians.

   So for us launching our struggle may take months and years.We are only starting,so keep on with your discussions.

   Most of you have come with good articles and have received good comments.Learning is often a long process.

   Articles by MT,ES,Dayaks,Dayak Abroad and many others and lately Changop 4540 have come up with excellent materials for all Dayak Baru surfers to learn from.Honestly,I would feel that missing reading Dayak Baru is like missing a good dinner.

   Thanks to all of you.Keep up with your priceless interactions.I think ‘Mr. Pensioner’miss all of you.

   “Change we can and change we must.”

9. apairock on July 16th, 2009 9:01 pm

   I am 36 year old now. Just registered as a voter recently. I am from Lubok Antu. Why i don’t vote until now? because i don’t trust any of the candidate. Trust me man, these jokers,when they stand in the election, they just think about their on belly only. That made me sick and stay away from the politic world.
   So, John, if there is any idea to form a political party or other platforms – to take care of the interest of the dayak, make sure this organisation is clean and transparent from the day it formed. No point for to fix it when it has already rotten. See the others dayak based party?
   Trust me John, There are many people out there – waiting. I know that to form the party is not one man job but i do believe that you have full support from our friends here to work on it.
   PRS? SPDP? PBB? There are rotten and stinks.

10. KuncitMuncit on July 17th, 2009 12:38 am

    Fear not,worry not, Dayaks. For one day,as more and more of our young attained better education than most of us and our forefathers,…wiser and fully adjusted to their surrounding environment,our dreams and aspirations will yet see the light of day. We may still be around to be part of the Dayak “evolution”,but may only watch the sucess of our “change” and transformation completed, from the “after-world”.

    But if we have not yet,lets begin the “change” process now. Lets change the way we think,the way we perceive things,the way we tackle problems.Lets think “positive.” Dont let our thoughts dwell on the problem or issue. Know and understand the problem or issue, then set to solve and settle it. Lets change to improve our lives: stop habitual and over-drinking that ruin our health and lives.Stop going nyabong.We have yet to see a Dayak become rich through this wasteful practice/culture.Its just a waste of time and money.Be productive.Work our farm or our kebun in an organized and modern fashion.Dont just be farmers,be entrepreuner-farmers.Utilize our land fully.Rear chicken ,ducks,pond-fish,goats,cows etc,etc.Plant all sorts of vegetables and fruit trees. Be modern and business-minded.Learn the trade and seek advices and training on agriculture and basic management and economy. Start the “saving and investment” practice.Enter our children into schools and stress the importance of education and qualification for a brighter future. Dont let the condition of their school, the under-performance of their teachers dull or kill their interest in studies.Look for alternative aids and sources. Monitor their performance and school discipline,and check who they mix with.Guide and support them through their education years.Our children’s success reflects on us, the parents.Higher qualification and skills is the key to a future that’s at par with other races’.With good-paying jobs our children are able to emulate other successful people: dress like them,buy house,car and other home amenities;go on vacations,etc. etc…

    The end result,we have successfully effect “change” to ourselves and to our children,and(no doubt)to their children,in future.

11. Mabel Rachel Maria on July 17th, 2009 1:37 am

    Change we must! Yes, Change in term of what?Yes, to us its meant “Revolutionary Change Of Mindset Is A Must” in every angle especially in thinking and doing things in life to achieve the ultimate goal to par with other advance races for the quality of life. We don’t want a changed “Baka Kokgo, sekejap aja.”

    Right away! We will start changing ours mindset in the way of thinking and doing things base on motivational factors as our competators. It looks micro but its does give an impact in a latter years, if a Revolutionary Change Of Mindset is a success in Dayak’s hearts.

    With due respect sir, how about you? Does Change we must already started within you. Remember, we are unsure if time will wait for man.

    We don’t want to be as Uncle CA put it in his own words ““Then one fine day an apple drops on his head – AKAi!, the whole new paradigm is clearly visible”…..and with the election of ADUN is just around the corner, maybe sooner then 2011. We don’t want to be caught “ngena seluar gingang aja.” Do we?

    Thanks you.
    We,Mabel, Rachel & Maria

12. Engkeruak Tau Tepang on July 17th, 2009 7:33 am

    Apo….! Laun amai dek ngerister diri neh unggal Apairock! Anang bakanya, lagi rugi undi pembangkang enti nuan enda nyukong parti ke ngenanka diri dia. Ukai nya nyenyamai ngiga manok ke manah tisik, manah bulu ke deka disabong ba menua kita dia. Pemutus bepilih pen ukai pemutus kadiri aja laban siti undi jarang amat ulih mantu kendidat ka menang. Ento iya ulih pen, amat tak baka ba ujong tandok ga, nyau baka perau ke chapil ka karam. Gilikka mimit sigi karam meh iya. Enti siku urang nya diberi semangkok kolo mi, iya sigi tebeubos lingkau deka ngaramka perau ke tepan iya nya laban ke kena belanja sida ke alah laban undi iya.

13. CharcoalArt on July 17th, 2009 8:56 am

    Panjai Runding Panjai Ruai on July 16th, 2009 8:52 pm “I believe those Dayaks who are already classified as ‘middle class’ are no longer keen to give their inputs regarding CHANGE.Any change would mean the club would have more members and become crowded.”

    Sorry sir, but I beg to disagree and it is ok too if you disagree with me – let’s just treat it like “besarara penemu”

    I have heard many times people said Ibans/Dayaks are “bingking” and “kepapas” lots. Some even believe this stigma beyond reasnoable doubt and adopt it as the basis to like or hate others.

    I think this kind of mentality is too extreme. Certainly there are people who are “bingking” but you can’t simply assume everybody are like that. As far as I am concerned, nothing to do with my class (as I am just a poor chap struggling to make a living) but I have always find Dayaks and Ibans as mostly helpful, sincere and humble. I have been helped by them and very grateful for that. As for myself after more than 10 years living in KL, I have helped hundreds of Dayaks/Ibans got employed. I also have helped a few Iban technicians, promoted them, wrote their CVs, coached them, etc. until they eventually become managers and are able to be hired by foreign firms, earning huge incomes. Don’t mean to shout about this kind of thing as that is nothing compared to what others are doing – the point is, I think we all try our best to help, within our own limits & capabilities.

    However, if people can’t help you, you cannot simply hate them becuase of that. Let’s ask yourself, how about you, are you able to help other people all the way too?

    It happened to me long time ago when I was a form 4 student staying in boarding school in Tanjung. Many of us were very poor. There was one fella, came from same area as myself but studied in different school when we were form 3. We met in Tanjung and were all friends then. One day, he asked me if I could lend him some money, unfortunately I told him I was very sorry I didn’t have money to spare, may be next time. Honest to God, I only had RM15 within my being then. I have to live with the allowance my elder brother sent me between RM40 to RM60 per month (there were times when he couldn’t or forgot to send – you can imagine). Anyway, you know what that fella did when I told him I couldn’t lend him any money? he had decided to hate me and to become my enemy throughout our entire period in that school. He was much older than me but young as I was then I told myself “fine if that’s how you look at it, so be it”. Come to think about it now may be I should have just given him RM15 and let myself suffered on his behalf. I was unable to think like that then. Many years later we met again, only then he said hello to me i.e. talking again to me but I wasn’t so sure if I could ever forgive him. Such experience is unforgetable to me as it involved injustice uncorrected. Why is this kind of thing happen between Dayaks? It’s all due to certain mentalities which cause misunderstanding, isn’t it?

    Why there PBDS was broken? Also partly due to misunderstanding – but that’s another story.

    Hence, I think we should try to discard negative thinking and pursue positive outlooks on ourselves, other people, jobs, families, future, etc.

14. Papung Engkilu on July 17th, 2009 10:11 am

    CA,
    Many years later we met again, only then he said hello to me i.e. talking again to me but I wasn’t so sure if I could ever forgive him.
    —————————————

    Nobody would be blaming u for not borrowing your friend the money. But God will not forgive you if you refused to forgive your friend who made attempt to shake your hand/make-up.

15. Akiq Hawong on July 17th, 2009 10:24 am

    apairock…yours is not too bad. My late grandfather registered himself as voters at the age of 75. But sad he never have the chance to exercise his vorting right cos he passed away two years later.

16. Meramat Tajak on July 17th, 2009 1:58 pm

    Change for “Change We Must: I share PE and KuncitMuncit exasperation ! This DayakBaru Change We Must, should make some baby step forward.It has to break out of its blogosphere shell and into some tangible physical reality.If it remains status quo, I’m afraid-”Change” as some of us wants it for others (not for ourselves – we have changed!) to be, will remain an elusive dream.

    Breaking Out: a workshop as suggested, can be a powerful baptism of fire for DayakBaru. It doesn’t have to be big budget, 5-star hotel event.Call the event a “break-out party for an exploratory workshop to structure DayakBaru”.If 20 people can attend it, that should make sufficient quorum.The theme event could be “Breaking-out for Revolutionary Change (as oppose to evolutionary).

    Transformation: DayakBaru can possibly transform in the following ways:
    1) Do nothing – continue as is
    2) Expand Dayakbaru links in blogosphere & portal
    3) Convert Dayakbaru into an NGO with membership
    4) Trademark Dayakbaru & convert into e-business with a cause (10% charity -tax break for non-profit)
    5) Declare support & become affiliate of a political party (a controversial topic – I’m sure)
    6) Consolidate Dayak bloggers into a coherent advocacy

    In each case, DayakBaru will need to find its niche in the Dayak community among the many political parties, tribes, clubs/NGOs, religious institutions,and even blogs.Niche – should be one the subject, as are the vetting/selection of at least 5 (excl doing nothing)listed organisational structure,during the exploratory worshop.In the selection process: test the efficacy of the 5 against a list of mission objectivs. Reserve a timeslot for play time and getting together !

    Parting Remark: I think I can make time to attend such a workshop anywhere in Sarawak for up to 3 days.If the event is organised, and feelers to register interest are placed/sent out in all known Dayak blogs, I imagine: A) the response will be exceeding expectation or B) the response will be lukewarm. But either way,just the simple feeler, will provide an excellent pointer on next course of action.

    Or am I too idealistic ?

17. Sinu Ngenang on July 17th, 2009 5:49 pm

    Pengawa nuan manah Dr.anang lembau nulis

18. Mabel Rachel Maria on July 17th, 2009 6:53 pm

    No! You are not too idealistic Master Maramat, what you have said are definitely right with our vision.

    Otherwise tonne and tonne what we have said over the years, suggested, programmes are merely rethoric in Change We Must.

    Shall we roll the ball by organising “Fund Donation/Organising” in Dayakbaru, or in some other way, cause, What Mr. Maramat suggested will obsolutely need some monetarily factors,”Breaking Out: a workshop as suggested, can be a powerful baptism of fire for DayakBaru. It doesn’t have to be big budget, 5-star hotel event.Call the event a “break-out party for an exploratory workshop to structure DayakBaru”.If 20 people can attend it, that should make sufficient quorum.The theme event could be “Breaking-out for Revolutionary Change (as oppose to evolutionary).

    Other can be assured that we will fully support Dayakbaru brilliant ideas and even scarified our valuable times for the noble ideas in Dayakbaru.

    Thanks you,
    We,Mabel, Rachel & Maria

19. nembiak on July 17th, 2009 8:08 pm

    Aku berasai bendar gaga laban maya ka madah ngagai bala dayak ka baru/ nembiak baru pasal patut amai kitai dayak tu berubah.. manah amai sambutan. Bala kaban belayan, kaban kereja sereta baka ka berimbai endur diau sida beminat amai enggau lalau aku. Di peragam ka aku ..lama laun kitai dayak sigi enggai agi dikemeli ka orang,,,kelebih agi bala firaun swk nya.

20. Panjai Runding Panjai Ruai on July 18th, 2009 12:29 pm

    CA

    What I was trying to express in my comment was tha fact that those Dayaks who made their millions from their ‘precisely calculated daredevil political ventures’ during the last few decades are now feeling relaxed.They prefer to stay in the backseats not without knowing or realising how their dayak Communities are being marginalised or robbed of their only assets ‘NCR lands’.

    Some of them might be feeling indebted to their ‘BIG BOSS’ without whom they would be like most of us.

    Those are the people who (if they are willing) can help make a strong Dayak Organisation,with much more resources in terms of ideas and finances and also logistics to get the organisation moving to the remotest part of the state,where our people are often left out of the current social and political world of Dayak Baru.

21. Akiq Hawong on July 18th, 2009 4:00 pm

    I suggest the slogan of “change we must” be changed to “United we must”

22. Dyaks on July 18th, 2009 4:53 pm

    Panjai Runding Panjai Ruai:
    “What I was trying to express in my comment was tha fact that those Dayaks who made their millions from their ‘precisely calculated daredevil political ventures’ during the last few decades are now feeling relaxed.They prefer to stay in the backseats not without knowing or realising how their dayak Communities are being marginalised or robbed of their only assets ‘NCR lands’. Some of them might be feeling indebted to their ‘BIG BOSS’ without whom they would be like most of us. Those are the people who (if they are willing) can help make a strong Dayak Organisation,with much more resources in terms of ideas and finances and also logistics to get the organisation moving to the remotest part of the state,where our people are often left out of the current social and political world of Dayak Baru.
    ”

    And how interesting for these Dayak ex-crooks would like to tell the young Dayaks how to behave eh? Something like:
    “You know, I used to bribe, lobby for big projects but everything was paid by Chinaman subcontractor, right from paying tender documents to ask him finish the work while all the upfront money 10 percent paid in full in cash to me or in-kind be it fully furnished big banglo plus Mercs plus oversea vacations plus free Australian college fees for my kids Blah, Blah, Blah…”

    Probably you end your successful tell-tale with:
    “But hey kids, Ali Baba business concept probably the best thing since man created the Ponzi multi-level scam. OK just a small tips for next big scam: plantation on NCR lands. Well, OK, it’s already big now. Thank you.”

    None of the Dayak politicians-businessmen will make it through. Either their Ali Baba business gone bust to fellow cronies (even now already half-own by Foochow tokeys) or their lazy-bum fake-degree-holder kids screw it all that know nuts about business. Spare another thought if you would like to appoint a crook as your advisor, or just a reminder example to young Dayaks: not worth as corrupt goons in the end. Forget about it.

23. kelingmenua1 on July 18th, 2009 6:56 pm

    change for what. Change BN admin to pkr or united for what let united under BN or PKR?

24. Apai Patrick on July 18th, 2009 9:26 pm

    The bottom line is this we have to change to make changed. Another case in point; the all famous phrase ‘birds of a feather flock together’.

25. Sinu Ngenang on July 18th, 2009 9:48 pm

    Carry the good work Dr.John.

26. Mabel Rachel Maria on July 19th, 2009 1:46 am

    And the story goes, some may very good to convince people with all sort of ideas!

    oR when come to impelment its, it will be another story, most are liar? Few will do , walk the talk, and in the end its will be useless.

    With due respect everyone. We would like to suggest that if we are really caring and concern for the future of the dayak in this Dayakbaru com. We are taking another step ,How about if we suggest a seminar say in Kuching,Sibu,Bintulu or Miri and meet face to face to sort all the difficuties and the delimas that affecting the dayaks.

    For sure, Doc, will be agreed with our suggestion. The other such as ES,CA, ETTepang, EL,PapungE.BujangSN,Dyak,Iban Abroad with ensubar, PRPRunding and others are most welcome. Not to mention our friends, Abun sui, Cina Chantung and 4550 with their instigations against the dayaks.

    If there is NO WALK THE TALK,than it is mere a …………

    Thanks you.

27. bencuk d baul on July 19th, 2009 11:13 am

    Baru kak enda lebih ahi sepuluh iko kita ke diatas nyebut serta mereti ke “CHANGE” within dayak. Enti mina kita ke sejeput nya aja ke debating semua utai dalm blog tu nya nadai impact ko aku meh wai.
    Manah agi kita ke sejeptut tu maca book “UNBEATABLEV VALUE STRATEGY”. Belajar meh kita nya, How to create value for Competitive Advantage. Then no more NATO. Being inovative and creative witll path a way to victory.

28. Meramat Tajak on July 19th, 2009 11:53 am

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    kelingmenua1 on July 18th, 2009 6:56 pm wrote

    change for what. Change BN admin to pkr or united for what let united under BN or PKR?

    Panjai Runding Panjai Ruai on July 18th, 2009 12:29 pm wrote

    …Some of them might be feeling indebted to their ‘BIG BOSS’ without whom they would be like most of us.

    Those are the people who (if they are willing) can help make a strong Dayak Organisation,with much more resources in terms of ideas and finances and also logistics to get the organisation moving to the remotest part of the state,where our people are often left out of the current social and political world of Dayak Baru.
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    Kelingmenua1,
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    Very good question. Often times, underlying the call for change,is an undisguise call to switch political party. That thinking immediately split the DayakBaru leaders between BN loyalist and PR sympathisers. And within the BN party loyalist, is another level of fragmentation. And so on, and on ad nauseum.

    Thats why, I would call for those who see a potential in Dr JBA Dayakbaru, not necessarily to support it with clever postings – or even monetary donation, but to suspend for the moment, the inclination to revert back to the fragmented state of the Dayak community. Go back to the reset state, and plan from there.

    It can be done, simply by putting the Dayak mission objectives before discussing the means to get there.In the event(workshop) that I proposed, the visioning process would be one of the very first subject to discuss. For example: one of the mission objective maybe to put a Dayak as the next Sarawak Chief Minister. Once it is agreed as one of the mission objectives, then the discussion will focus on the method. Thats where the question of which political party should be “endorsed” by Dayakbaru and other Dayak bloggers, can be addressed. I’m sure the discussion and debates will continue into blogosphere. The more meaningful the mission objectives are, the more discussion there would be. Another example of moonshot target would be to have at least 6 hours of TV programming in Dayak language(s), by 2012. The ensuing debate and discussion will similarly touch on politics, economics and other means to get there.

    Following such an event, Dayakbaru should have a roadmap/milestones of how to achieve a structured mission.And the topic would also be more focussed.
    At this juncture, this posting lead me to the exchange between CA and PRPR.

    CA,PRPR
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    On the issue of support by well-to-do Dayaks, its probably more helpful to assume the best. I believe if DayakBaru were to be incorporated as an NGO, it will be better organised in any donation drive. Anyone at the top of the pyramid must be making donations to many social organisations, and they will be guided by the work programme (roadmap) and track record of the organisations-when making their donation. I have no illusion that it would be easy to set up an NGO, and worst still, once DayakBaru becomes an NGO, what the “paying” members write can be scrutinized by the authorities.Much freedom of speech could be lost.The alternative of having limited funding, and virtually a one-man change agent, in the person of Dr JBA, does not augurs well for Dayak transformation.

    The other approach in raising fun, once DayakBaru becomes an official entity, is to use the viral method i.e alliance with larger NGOS, and to accept minimum RM 1 donation/mo from everyone including Dayak students. The viral approach requires penetration through multiple media such Twitter, Facebook and most important of all, handphones. DayakBaru doesn’t need to rely on single big donations – that can be in itself, dangerous – with attendant strings attached.

    Finally, I think DayakBaru – because it is effectively a platform for many bloggers, may be in a good position to consolidate Dayak blogging into a purposeful activity : proactive, planned and mobilized in tandem with the grassroots. So another less controversial event is to call for a Dayak bloggers convention …and see if there is opportunity to form a common front or loose association.

    Lets also take note of the postings by the Mabel sisters. The young likes to see concrete action moving forward. Perhaps there are many young people out there(who will be the real beneficiaries of any Change agenda we initiates today) who will not only think of transformative action by reading and posting in DayakBaru, but who will act to make the change a reality for them, and their successive generation.

    What say you, shouldn’t we have that workshop/convention ..? I reckon the event can be had for as low as RM 10K (10 people donate RM 1K to Dr JBA to organise), all attendees to be self-sponsor. As JFK once said, if not now-when ? If not us – who ?

29. Mr Talk-Only-No-Action on July 19th, 2009 12:30 pm

    1.”With due respect everyone. We would like to suggest that if we are really caring and concern for the future of the dayak in this Dayakbaru com.

    We are taking another step ,How about if we suggest a seminar say in Kuching,Sibu,Bintulu or Miri and meet face to face to sort all the difficuties and the delimas that affecting the dayaks.”

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    Dr,
    Is this proposal by MRM is too bad to be ignored?. Or are you still looking for some more proposals to add up to the present long list brought up by some of us here over the years. Guess, it is really time for us to discuss the issues affecting the dayak Iban in a more systematic and organised manner.

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    2.”For sure, Doc, will be agreed with our “suggestion. The other such as ES,CA, ETTepang, EL,PapungE.BujangSN,Dyak,Iban Abroad with ensubar, PRPRunding and others are most welcome. Not to mention our friends, Abun sui, Cina Chantung and 4550 with their instigations against the dayaks.

    If there is NO WALK THE TALK,than it is mere a…”
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    Dr,
    You say that you wanna add substance to our discussions in this blog. In my opinion, substance without action is mere rhetoric. People in this blog are only here to show their English Writing Skills, just like sitting in an English Classroom.

    However, I still appreciate your efforts in giving professional talks to our Iban people FOC. Hope, some of us here could also chip in some efforts to complement your work.

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    3.”Breaking Out: a workshop as suggested, can be a powerful baptism of fire for DayakBaru. It doesn’t have to be big budget, 5-star hotel event.Call the event a “break-out party for an exploratory workshop to structure DayakBaru”.If 20 people can attend it, that should make sufficient quorum.”
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    Dr,
    Is this another empty talk yet again?. Do you see any substance in this proposal by MT?

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    4.”But if we have not yet,lets begin the “change” process now. Lets change the way we think,the way we perceive things,the way we tackle problems.Lets think “positive.” ”

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    Dr,
    When can we start the ball rolling?. Is it now, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, next year or never as we are ONLY TALKING. U may ask KunchitMunchit.
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    5.”Articles by MT,ES,Dayaks,Dayak Abroad and many others and lately Changop 4540 have come up with excellent materials for all Dayak Baru surfers to learn from.Honestly,I would feel that missing reading Dayak Baru is like missing a good dinner.”

    Dr,
    Our fellow readers like PRPR could see some things good in this blog. Are we only talking?. Or should we ask people to continue contributing so that we have enough articles to read, as in my case?.

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    6.”Seriously, there must be some joint-effort to register more Dayak voters in order to push the ‘Change’ message further. Here Dayak unions associations NGOs must work with Pakatan parties (and maybe with MAFREL also) to launch Dayak voter registration iniative.”
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    Dr,
    Is there any substance in what Mr D mentioned here?. Any possibility for this thing to take place immediately or befor the next state Election.? Who is going to carry the work?. Or are we just TALKING ONLY?.
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    7.”Without scientific studies, and I would like to propose that we should conduct at least one study to establish a base line to find out where are now to map out our direction and road map for change we must.”
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    Dr,
    Go ahead, please fix the date, time and place. It is really time for all of us sit togeher to discuss the issues affecting our Iban community. I am sure some of us who are sincere and honest in helping the Ibans in this blog would inform you of their presence. Or else, it is another melodious rhetoric.
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    8.”To try to change the Dayak mass through seminars and campaigns is very noble action. It is a caring action and effort to help the society.”
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    Dr,
    Again, is there any substance in CA’s proposal?. Is it too difficult for us to make the first step?.

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    9.” However (focus on problems here), as we could see, the first hurdle i.e. even before you could preach the changes, is to get enough volunteers for the seminars. The fact is that there are many “talk only” and fewer actions”
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    Dr,
    This sounds pessimitic idea from CA who is always
    positive in most occasions. Anyway, please start inviting some of regular writers here just to see the responses.

    I suggest that you print some of the important and more practical comments brought up in this blog in the first seminar. Later,arrange them in a more presentable manner so that the infomation could easily be understood by the Ibans.

    Thanks.

30. Keruak Tau Tepang on July 19th, 2009 1:37 pm

    For Dayaks to change political parties is individual preference. But please I strongly urged Dayaks male NOT to change by looking for another woman or by having more than one wife or spending more on “langkau”.

31. kepayang on July 19th, 2009 3:00 pm

    Most of the suggestions are relevant to make changes in the mindset of the dayak.How many dayak read this blog?I think every dayak that lead an organisation(Dayak) should imulate what DR.Dusit Jaul did.( Read Borneo Post today)DJBA, please continue with what you have started,go to rural areas and organise seminar so that more dayak particularly the Iban can get access to education.For school leavers, tell them where or what ILP,Giat Mara to name a few.

32. KuncitMuncit on July 19th, 2009 11:42 pm

    Dear Mr.Talk-Only-No-Action,
    We can each begin our “change”, as an individual,to ourselves and to our own lives.From there we broaden the “change” to our immediate family and their lives.Now, if every Dayak individual partake of this “change”process,we are rest assured that there IS “ACTION” indeed. We dont have to wait for a “starter’s shot” or a seminar to get us started.

33. batulawi on July 20th, 2009 1:14 am

    If one can read this Blog time and time again,he has the capacity to contribute to the ‘CHANGE’ we all wish for. At the same time please bear in mind that it does not happen overnight, or could be done by a single person no matter how educated he may be. We all need each other to read articles, share our findings, thoughts and relevent ideas in this blog as a ‘cog in the wheel’ of change for the betterment of our people.

    To spring into action may be a good idea but the other camp is having nightmares when they come across or hear the word DAYAKS, TAHABAS and NCR LAND being mentioned. They’ll do anything to BLINDFOLD our kampung folks. They even use the govt departments to sabotage our efforts to educate our people on NCR LAND RIGHTS.

    They must have tons of LIES & MISDEEDS to hide, otherwise they won’t be so defensive and indifferent to our ideals and cause…CHANGE we must! Vote PR!

34. Engkeruak Tau Tepang on July 20th, 2009 7:23 am

    Ngah Mahadir diatu tak baka ke bejaku kosong aja ga ba belog iya deh unggal. Kitai ke bejaku ditu sigi ka ngeremba sida ke megai perintah ga. Nya meh julok Mahadir ga diatu. Mayuh amai sida berandau ba Chedet nya ngelepaska geram mantai ngeredaika diri nyukong penemu Mahadir ke udah pensin nya.

    Ku jaku ka belajar sains/Maths dalam jaku dilah apai indai tang dini nya ka asi deh. Aku tu ka meh meda anak belajar sabjek nya dalam jaku iban. Sida Kayan, Kenyah, Penan, Seru, Kelabit, Murut, Bisaya, Kedayan ka meh belajar dalam jaku sida iya empu. Untung endar meh sida Tambi, sida Tonguyong nyau keras kepala belajar sabjek nya dalam jaku sida empu. Dini Melayu bisi asi ke kitai deh? Uji sama bela belajar dala bahasa Inglis, nya baru asi. Nya nyau anak sida aja ke ka diberi senang alu anak kitai enda! Kumbai sida laut nya nemu jaku laut memagang anak kitai di menua ulu din. Aku enggai bula. Maya aku sekula suba, tak nyau baka ke nangkap jaku urang putih ga aku ka nangkap jaku laut; sama bela tusah amat meh bisi senibil mimit enggau jaku iban. Ila nyau sida laut nya ga ke ka berebut nganjong anak diri ke Landan kin. Ngaga diri pandai ngambi sampai 20 iti sabjek. Nama sabjek bangat tak ngemauh amat dipelajarka iya nya. Kati bisi ngemasukka pelajar b**pot ba sabjek nembiak nya?

35. Meramat Tajak on July 20th, 2009 10:00 am

    KuncitMuncit on July 19th, 2009 11:42 pm
    batulawi on July 20th, 2009 1:14 am

    Hope you will support the proposed DayakBaru BERANDAU workshop proposed by Dr JBA this morning.
    Passionate “regulars” with clear headed views like yourselves will be desperately needed in the workshop.

    I certainly don’t see any harm in it. And it doesn’t have to be a pretentious media event either, if the intention is to avoid unneccesary publicity -that can raise unreasonable expectation.

    The current modus operandi to affect change through ad-hoc commentaries (follow by spurious feedback and opinion pieces) on news of the day is fine, insofar as it serves to parse the newsmedia for balance, if not for truth. The subsequent individual change process would be limited to the imparting of critical thinking to the readers – and perhaps to make all of us grow wiser as individuals by learning to be disciplined in engaging with each other, and with people who may take on a diametrically opposite viewpoint.

    But the process would fall short of an actual planning and strategizing for change. I read this weblog’s proposed framework for change, but a framework need to be developed into a plan, and a plan need to be guided by strategy. And yes, it would take many brain cells to put those things together.

    It may well be that the plan and strategy will not materialised into an actual and concrete implementation steps. But to have evolved a plan is better than hoping for something to happen on reaching “critical mass”.

    To my mind, the proposed BERANDAU workshop can be used to reflect on what all of us has posted, and to put some structure in the silent dialog from there onward. I believe even those who wouldn’t be physically present (due logistics constraints or prefer to remain anonymous) in the workshop, would be interested to read and respond on the deliverables in this weblog later. If you can’t participate directly, perhaps you will be interested to help in programming the event.

    I will volunteer myself shortly.

36. NEITOK on July 20th, 2009 10:59 am

    This is going to be interesting. Yes, I agree with MT as we need many good brains to materialise the suggestion above.I shall follow up closely…

37. Meramat Tajak on July 20th, 2009 12:16 pm

    NEITOK, why not volunteer to help organise the event itself ? I had email Dr JBA that I would join any volunteers to think through and shape the proposed Berandau programme. If no volunteers step forward in 2 days time, I think the proposal will have to be scrapped. And honestly, I think that would be quite regretable. If the experiment fail, so what ? Nothing to lose. Better to have tried. And to try again.And to invent different ways and methods to engage Dayak minds for our shared future. I think you have the capacity to do better than “to follow up closely “…

38. Mabel Rachel Maria on July 20th, 2009 12:49 pm

    Great! Perhap this is what we can call “The Dawn Of The New Era Return Of The Dayaks”

    Well, Mr. Maramat Tajak you can be assured that we will try our best to attend the “Berandau” session. It is too valuable to be missed.

    Come on guys! let us all participate, may be this is not the ultimate salutions to the Dayaks delimas, but it is a good first step.

    Come on, let all join hands, don’t let the Doc down.

    Thanks you.

    We, The Mabel Sisters

39. KuncitMuncit on July 20th, 2009 4:02 pm

    Effecting “change” in ourselves the Dayaks, and adjusting or adapting to our environment are both paramount and necessary if we desire to see Dayaks progress and respected.For those who desire for “political change” they are reminded to utilize the power of their votes and to advise the like-minded but illiterate ones, the “magic” of theirs.Then….the morning-after election, when it dawns upon them that the government of their dreams failed to materialized,they can either keep on trying or adapt to the “environment” like some among us.For, logically, “if you cant beat them”,join them.I wont call it “surrender” but….”wise”. Its way better than “fence-sitting”, waiting for the moon to fall on their laps! Year after long year.And because government “bebagi utai DALAM BILIK”, if you are outside,”nuan enda ampit,enda disangkong.”And if you are inside,ampit repik sedak(crumbs)pen pama meh.Dont we Dayak want to be the “TUKANG BAGI.” then!?

    Changing to improve ourselves,our families,our race, and changing or adjusting to the environment,political or otherwise, can run parallel and simultaneously. So lets not procrastinate.The sooner we are aware of where we are within Malaysian society and the world,the sooner we can recover from these “doldrums” and set about correcting our ways by way of properly-charted course, to reach our goals of enviable progress,success and excellence.

    To chart the course to take towards a better future,Dayakbaru bloggers and readers should join forces with educated Dayak leaders and politicians and rally to a common “focal-point”(…or a battle-cry???):WE ARE DAYAKS.Cast away political-divides, or “I am iban,you are bidayuh and he is orang-ulu” divides.(At this point i said to myself..”no wonder there ARE people who want to obliterate this “rallying-call”.It can be POWERFUL for Dayak unity. Pity that one among us has turned Judas Iscariot.)Now, via this focal-point ideas are hatched, presented for discussions,debated, and”brain-stormed”to formulate the best course to take.

    That decided:take it upon ourselves to spread the message of, and ways to change, far and wide to reach each and every DAYAK.

40. Dyaks on July 23rd, 2009 4:33 pm

    Look at that horse-shit name Mr Talk Only No Action, conveniently using NATO/No action talk only as preface to question the ‘Change’ message and conveniently as your nickname eh? That is the same ploy by BN goons to silence critics such as challenging to stand for election seat. Typical brain-dead. Same shit, different name. How about those pathetic Dayak leaders that DON’T EVEN TALK at all?

    Well my Dayak folks, do not stop talking/ voice your concern. At least you talk or comment. In fact you are way much better than most Dayak leaders that DON’T EVEN TALK. That is worst than NATO/no action talk only. By not even talking, what more to expect the Dayak leaders to act and protect the Dayak rights. So who is really the worst hypocrite NATO now? The Dayak leaders? Dayak with NATO nickname?

    Therefore, we should convey the message of ‘Change’ as simple request or proposal for Pakatan Sarawak to initiate new Dayak voters registration campaign statewide aka “Jom Daftar Pengundi”. Don’t worry about walk-the-talk tauntings from the retractors. It’s just an idea and let see if BN will give lukewarm response as useless crap because it’s all EC responsibility afterall, all Dayaks must go for BN blah blah blah.

    And for that idea of new Dayak voters registration campaign statewide, it is directly sending a message of ‘Change’ whether a shot term or long term Dayak objective. But for any drinking gathering, you all can do it anytime anyplace because that is basically what any gathering will end up. At this moment and looking at how Yang Dikasihi un-officially declared war on Dayaks (asking PRS-SPDP merger just to piss it off later, NCR land is state land, Apa Itu 2 million NCR Lands? etc), it’s all about speeding up state election, destroy as much Dayaks (even inside BN), so that his dynasty shall continue forever, then this is the right time to effectively spread the ‘Change’ message by proposing new Dayak voters registration campaign statewide.

    The war against Dayak unity is all but disguised as divide-rule-destroy the Dayaks be it in Pakatan or BN. If own Dayak leaders let it happen not even give a talk or voice, then nobody should question any Dayak whether being NATO or not. If you as Dayak leaders being elected exactly to talk but not then just shut up forever. Better still, use NATO as your nickname like Mr Talk Only No Action, you sleazy muppet.

41. jg2095 -ICITWIT Segalang burung on February 18th, 2010 7:51 am

    First think iban only.. if this happen may widen to others. dont plant hate in people mind it spread faster then we think, and there are very little cure to what has said.

    Tanam meh buah ke manah ba bangsa kitai iban. Enti peda menoa repa bebai meh kitai beduruk nebas ia.

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