Apai Iban, Indai Cina, Anak nama bansa?

89 Responses to “Apai Iban, Indai Cina, Anak nama bansa?”

1. crispen waugh on October 29th, 2009 1:15 pm

   Ha! Who are you fooling? An Iban is a Dayak who just wants to give himself a fancy name to hide the fact that he comes from a race who love the taste of human blood, brains and flesh; take glory in chopping of the heads of their so-called enemies (even innocent women and children) and live their pathetic lives in their own self-induced terror of superstition.

   “To live is to fight”. Yeah, as long as your enemy is weaker than you. If he’s stronger, let’s all run back to the longhouse!

2. Agom on October 29th, 2009 1:52 pm

   Laws do not discriminate against anyone, but the enforcer.Article 161A(6)(b) of the Federal Constitution considered her as Bumiputera, the Ministry of Education interprets it otherwise, thus a clean way to sideline dayak. Someone has to advice the parents to consult a lawyer to pursue the matter in court.

3. din on October 29th, 2009 1:55 pm

   Nya utai ka di ka sida Tai manuk, Jambu, sida Enggau sida Ikan masin. Sida rindu meda bansa iban dikemeli ka orang. asuh di nilat tumbong tai manuk ka meh ia. Dini sida ka bejako ka hak kitai Iban. Ka nanya mega. Kini ka SDNU, SIDS, DBA, enggau SADIA deh?. Nama pengawa kita deh. Nadai ulih mansut ka diri ba TV kita senentang utai tu. Enti pia, amai meh kita tu semina persatuan ka nemu nganjur ka Nyambut Hari Gawai enggau Ngiling tikai aja. Kelimpah arunya nadai meh. Patut meh anembiak rebak baru nadai ka begulai enggau perstuan kita tu.

4. Ijauberani on October 29th, 2009 2:07 pm

   Ha tuk dikumbai kita 1Malaysia bedau panjai kempen 1 malaysia udah kitai dayak dibuai orang. Enti kitai iban jadi enggau melayu gerenti bumiputra status ya unggal, sapa ulih ngelaban ketuanan laut kaban.

5. dayakrambo on October 29th, 2009 2:14 pm

   uji sama merati ka kes tu..tai manuk jadi enggau niang bini ya uhang putih..status anak seduai 100% bumiputera..laban apai sida .ianya tai manuk tu native baka kitai tu..nda ka tu sama sekali enggau kes enggau endu tu ka sigi terang amat bumiputera laban apai ya kah Iban/Dayak di swk dtu, lalu bini ya mega taja cina tang ukai ari hongkong..tauka uhg putih ari menua kanggarooo

6. KEMPAT TIANG on October 29th, 2009 3:03 pm

   IBAN-sea dayaK
   BIDAYUH-Land dayak.
   kayan,kenyah,etc.-org ulu.

   Diatu sapa-sapa ke bisi anak baru ada endang di disebut org sea-dayak(IBAN)dalam surat beranak.

   Ba penemu aku sea-dayak pen enda patut dikena bansa kitai.Endang ari munya kelia,ambis serata dunya udah nemu kitai tok endang IBAN!!!!
   ukai dayak-laut,ukai dayak sungai.laban org dayak kediau ba pesisir sungai ukai iban aja,maioh agi dayak bukai diau sebelah tebing sungai.
   Takut kebansa kitai jemah ila nyau becampur aduk enggau dayak bukai nyau nyadi siti bansa.nadai temu orang nama IBAN agi!!
   (PENGUJUNG DIKUMBAI ORG SEA DAYAK MAGANG)
   nama penyadi!!!

   Kebuah bala perintah laut ka nukar kitai ngagai sea dayak laban sida ka lubah-lubah mupuk muai nama IBAN lalu ka ngerumpak ambis-ambis reta tengkira BANSA IBAN,.lalu ka ka muai nama IBAN ari dunya tok.

   DIATU DITULIS SIDA BA SURAT BERANAK(SEA-DAYAK dalam kurungan “IBAN”)

   nyau makin ari ila last-last buai orang terus (IBAN) nya.Tinggal SEA-DAYAK aja.Parai..parai….
   Enda salah-salah baka kaum MAYAN ba MEXICO din.Kala didinga nama tang enda ditemu bansa.

   Tai bala sida perintah menoa kitai ke bansa IBAN ka gila utai baka nya.pagila lusa parai ga sida ia,kapa ia gila uchu ambuk,anak teresak bansa iban.pui….nya lapa deh.”ngeludah JABU”

7. Ijauberani on October 29th, 2009 3:22 pm

   anak taik manuk, asing & moggie ukai bumiputra laban jadi enggau indu rebai, adil tuk anak org di Sri Aman tuk dipertikai status bumiputra ya, fikir lah sendiri

8. dayaklama on October 29th, 2009 3:31 pm

   Nama kita DB nanya utai ke senang bakatu? Kala ninga jako penakan kita? Anak ia penakan Cina? Enti anak ia digaga nama Ling Ah Keh retinya anak iru, enti anak iru mestilah ukai bumiputera. Enti anak ia nama Ling anak Akeh sigi agi bumiputera penuh taja bunyi ia bisi Ling2 ujung.

   Baka nama nuan empu Doc, enti nuan enda bejako iban sigi kumbai kami orang puteh.

9. Temawai Lama on October 29th, 2009 3:32 pm

   Agom,

   Anang ngasoh orang rumah panjai ngagai Lawyer, abis sida rumah di “lawyer” sida ia. Aku udah ninga maioh kes orang rumah panjai berbayar ke beribu2 ringgit ngagai lawyer tang nadai utai olih.

   Ba kes tu, manah dibai ngagai TV3, ba kes Jonna Assun orang Lundu ka enda di terima teacher training college empai lama ti udah. Enti enggai ngagai TV3 bisi ga dibai Bureau Pengadu Awam.

   Nya aja kaban.

10. din on October 29th, 2009 3:57 pm

    dayaklama.

    Anang ngemilal ka diri nuan. Orang nemu meh reti penakan wai. Penakan nya dikira bumiputera meh enti apai ia agi dayak. Anang ka ngetan ka utai enda betul kaban. enti ia salah, salah meh nya.

11. Empelesik Sungai on October 29th, 2009 4:56 pm

    DayakLama, this has nothing to do with politics; this is the education and future of a young girl. Please, don’t try to make yourself stupid here, because you are not.

    Today you are paid to make fun of the people in this blog; tomorrow your children will be skinned alive under this discriminatory apartheid policy. Just use your brain to think – don’t use the ringgit signs as incentives.

12. Telanjur Basah on October 29th, 2009 5:57 pm

    Setuju ku ngau penemu nuan Empelesik Sungai…

    Penemu DL langsung nadai CRITICAL THINKING. Out of Topic. Enti ngaga assigment gerenti fail…!!

13. Pengajar Udah Pencen on October 29th, 2009 5:59 pm

    Dayaklama,

    Manah agi nuan berandau enggau pangan nuan, Menteri William Mawan enggau James Masing,madah ngagai seduai iya penusah ti nuntung Endu ti disebut dalam topik di atas nya.

    Pelaba aku nuan pan bisi bala kaban ti bebini indu Cina.Dayaklama please show your mettle by doing something good for the Dayaks for once.

    You can report to DB weblog later on .TQ.

14. Bujang Lelang on October 29th, 2009 6:51 pm

    Ngagai semua bangsa Dayak,

    Rebak baru, diatu mayoh bansa kitai iban enda ingat ke peturun nama aki ini kitai kelia ketegal ke udah modern keno tauka ketegal udah masuk agama christian.

    Sida lalu meri nama anak sida nama orang putih, melayu lalu nama kenyelai, tang nama iban nyau nadai laban kelalu deka modern tang nama bansa diri enda di kingat ke.Sapa salah?????????

15. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 29th, 2009 7:28 pm

    Auk yah meh, nitih ke jalai jako Dayaklama enggau Jabu, laban kitai Iban ukai Bumiputera Malaysia, ko Ketuanan Malayu.

    If you’re a Malay, you’ll be taken care of by UMNO, and the federal departments of State, from cradle to grave, but heaven forbid, you give a backward Iban girl from Simanggang any form of federal assistance, which includes any education loans or grants, because her mother is chinese. No that’s not racism, it’s just that the Ibans are in a new special category in the Queue, they must wait after the last of Malays have been served, and then if there is anything left in the barrel, that would obviously be rationed out to any Iban nominated by Jabu for education assistance, meaning if you’re parents are not from the Saribas, then you’re shit out of luck. This is what Iban Monkeys vote for anyway, at least the Saribas Ibans can pick the leftovers, and the rest of you, are only fit enough to be coolies, doesn’t matter how intelligent you are. This is Ketuanan Melayu as preached by the Jabu and Dayaklama gospel.

    Only Iban monkeys vote for these policies, so now these monkeys can enjoy the benefits of discrimination. Feels good, doesn’t it? Like the taste of Bananas.

16. bujang jagu on October 29th, 2009 7:29 pm

    Sebenar iya perlembagaan Persekutuan enggau Sarawak enda selaras. Suba bansa iban di sebut sea dayak sebedau di ubah. Nya alai lebuh sea dayak di tukar semina dalam Sarawk iya di ubah tang dalam persekutuan enda ditukar/dipinda. Takrifan di kena opis pelajar adalah takrifan persekutuan. Enti ba Jabatan Pendaftaran iya tu sigi bumiputera. Laban ba pendaftaranmenua Sarawak bisi takrifan lain ari Sabah & Semenanjung.

17. dayakrambo on October 29th, 2009 7:33 pm

    penemu dayaklama sigi baka pengelabuh tai uduk..suka ati aja ka neran, nda ngira nya ba ruai urg, sebelah tanju, sebelah tengahlaman, penemu ya tu sigi nda ulih guna..sigi baka uduk tai manuk..nka ya tu penakan uduk..

18. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 29th, 2009 7:36 pm

    Taib can easily set aside $300 million every five years to help the Dayak, via Yayasan Sarawak to assist Dayak students to go on further education, but unfortunately, any assistance to the Dayak, must be minimized. It is to keep the Dayak shackled, bonded and beholden to the powers that be, including to the likes of Jabu and Dayaklama. What is $300 million to the State Government anyway??? It’s only the budget for a football stadium. And what about Dayak leaders??? Well Masing is not going to help anyone, unless they’re form Baleh, and so on and so forth. And Dayak monkeys carry on voting for these policies. I mean this is comical, here you have a government that is morally obliged to help you, and yet these institutions are used to keep the bumiputera pressed down. What rubbish is this old Dayak monkeys trying to tell the new generations??? Eat Bananas???

19. Antu Raya on October 29th, 2009 8:46 pm

    I read about this sad news in the Borneo Post this morning and i feel angry and mad about this people (Higher learning Department). Even though i am malay, but i still believe education is for all as soon as she/he is qualified. As a teacher, i am very disappointed because our effort to educate this student since they are in primary school until finish their secondary school is useless, furthermore, even they got flying colors result and cannot enter any matriculation or worse university. So, better for her to quit schooling since she is in form one. Even get the good result cannot go anywhere.I think, now days our education department/higher learning always mix education with politics. Even us Malay (sarawakian) feel threatened. You can go anywhere in this sarawak even in rural area you can meet semenanjung teacher, Ustaz or ustazah. I have teaching in belaga before and even in my school we have 10 islamic student (their parent convert to islam)education department will send ustazah/ustaz to teach them. For me this is not wrong, but isn’t it there are no qualified astaz

20. Antu Raya on October 29th, 2009 8:50 pm

    Correction…

    no qualified ustaz or ustazah from sarawak itself.Education minister is busy with politic and give sweet talk to voter here and there but didn’t have time to sove problem in our education system.

21. tanah_mali on October 30th, 2009 3:08 am

    apai iban, indai cina, anak nama bansa?

    Enti suba ia ke dikingat ke aku, enti apai ia iban, ia dikumbai orang bumiputra taja indai ia cina. Tapi enti apai ia cina, indai ia iban, ia ukai bansa bumiputra..
    Tapi diatu ya ditemu aku, enti salah siko apai tau ka indai ia bumiputra, anak ia endang bumuputra. enda milih apai ia cina tauka indai ia cina. Asal salah siku apai tauka indai ia bumuputra, anak ia endang bumuputra..
    Aku madah baka nya laban kaban aku ulih diterima masuk ngai UiTM taja pan apai ia cina n indai ia iban. Nama ia mega ngena nama cina..
    Enti nitih ke policy UiTM terubah ditumbuh suba, ia endang ngambi bansa laut enggau bumiputra aja nyentuk ke diatu..
    Tapi nama kebuah kaban aku ulih diterima masuk ngagai UiTM? reti ia, munyi ke padah aku ba pun td, diatu konsep bumiputra diubah perintah. enti apai tau ke indai ia bumiputra, anak ia tau “diketagorikan” nyadi bumiputra.. ambik ke banding, apai kaban aku nya cina n indai ia iban. nama ia oliver ling (ukai nama amai)n apai ia nama ling ah pau(pan ukai nama amai) n indai ia nama menti(pan ukai nama amai). so, ba kes kaban aku tu td, nama kebuah ia ulih masuk UiTM “sedangkan” policy UiTM enda nerima cina tauka tambi..?

    Perintah patut bejuraika ke hal tu baka ni konsep bumiputra ke amai-amai ia awak ke kitai semua nda keliru enggau istilah bumiputra tu?

    siti tanya aku- enti nyema kitai iban jadi enggau melayu, reti ia laki kitai iban jadi enggau indu laut lalu ia bc anak. so, bansa nama ka anak ia nya? bansa iban tau ke melayu? bansa apai ia enda ulih tukar tajapan ia dah masuk islam. mina agama ia aja ulih tukar.. agama anak ia mesti meh islam, tapi bansa anak ia dh bansa nama?

22. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 30th, 2009 4:00 am

    THE ISSUE HERE IS STRAIGHTFORWARD. IBANS PAY TAXES. AND IN RETURN, IF THEY ARE TOLD THAT THEY’RE CHILDREN CANNOT BE ENROLLED IN LOCAL FURTHER EDUCATION UNIVERSITIES, THEN THE SOCIAL CONTRACT OF MALAYSIA IS BROKEN. SIMPLE AS THAT. THE GOVERNMENT IS HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR TAXES, BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT HAPPY TO EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN.

    AND YET THE IBANS VOTE FOR THESE POLICIES. WHO IS GOING TO GIVE A DAMN ABOUT IBAN CHILDREN AND EDUCATION, IF THE IBANS THEMSELVES DO NOT GIVE A DAMN. YOU THINK FRANCIS HARDEN IS GOING TO HELP HER? YOU THINK SUPP SHOULD HELP HER? YOU THINK THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO ASSIST HER? YOU THINK YAYASAN SARAWAK HEADED BY JABU IS GOING TO HELP HER? YOU THINK ABDUL TAIB MAHMUD IS GOING TO HELP HER? NO ONE AND NO INSTITUTION IS GOING TO HELP HER. HER ONLY RECOURSE IS TO APPLY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP OFFERED BY PRIVATE COMPANIES LIKE SHELL FOR INSTANCE, BECAUSE APPARENTLY SHE IS NOT FIT ENOUGH FOR THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT TO HELP. SHE HAS TO RELY ON CHARITY.

    SHAME ON FRANCIS HARDIN, SHAME ON SIMANGGANG IBANS, SHAME ON SUPP, SHAME ON JABU, SHAME ON THE EDUCATION MINISTRY AND SHAME ON ABDUL TAIB MAHMUD.

23. Agom on October 30th, 2009 7:43 am

    Where is SIDS? Suppose to be very vocal on dayak affairs issue, but is silent on this important issue. Silence means in agreement.

24. din on October 30th, 2009 8:14 am

    SIDS nyau ngatur pengawa ngiling tikai wai. Anang nanya ka sida ia agi. Ini Empiang sigi enggai meda bansa iban pandai sekula. Enti udah pandai enggai ka ngelaban perintah. Pia ko ia… anang enda ingat.

25. Raban Dayak Baru on October 30th, 2009 9:08 am

    Dasar ketuanan melayu…

26. Temawai Lama on October 30th, 2009 9:23 am

    Tabi Kaban,

    Ba Article 161, clause 7, Federal Const. Dalam hal Bumiputera….spelling ” Iban” nadai masuk dalam kaum bumiputra. Nyaalai secara otomatik bala DB bernama, Iban abroad, Iban Immigran, Iban Proto taib ukai bumiputra.. Ha..Ha..ha…there you are. KitaI iban di kumbai sea dayak ba article tu.

    Tang nama term ’sea dayak’ enda kala dikena. Ba runding AKU present government practising polisi RULE & DIVIDE, takut sea dayak bercampur land dayak===give big impact ngagai politic kita SWK.

    Nya aja kaban.

27. Ijauberani on October 30th, 2009 10:33 am

    Din
    Betul utai ku deh nya bala sida SIDS ti ditemu aku kerja makai aja, ngiling bidai, melawat lalu makai. empai lama kering tali rekung sida SIDS laban mangkang org ka ngena word dayak leboh belaban ratu cantik. Nama bangsa kitai dayak tu dikemeli org bukai nama sida ia enda ngekebut baka DL nya ngeleput egi ya.

28. 10cents on October 30th, 2009 11:07 am

    Such issue should be the priorities for the like of sids, sdnu, sadia etc not just pre gawai programe, ngiling bidai, kumang and keling competition which merely an entertainment.
    Our ybs should highlight this issue during parliment sitting not just sit down and do nothing except yawning
    Jabu and his empiang senator should look at this issue seriously if they are serious enough to help the dayaks
    And us as voters should be brave enough to vote out this malfunction government come future election

29. Newdayak on October 30th, 2009 11:22 am

    DL,
    dayak lama nadai sekula ia k bendar(stengah tiang) penemu nyurut k blakang. Idup DB, maju bangsa dayak.

30. Chego-Chego on October 30th, 2009 12:02 pm

    Nama gaga YB Dayak mutar ka masalah tuk. Nyangka nadai, laban sida udah kena autopilot sida TAik semut. 1 Malaysia Najib tau tukar ka 1 Melayu.

31. Chego-Chego on October 30th, 2009 12:12 pm

    Ba penemu aku, masalah kitai dayak kemayatu ianya kitai dayak benung didiskriminasi secara alus. Ianya ngena law ngelaban hak kitai dayak. Laban pama agi ka peda aku kemayatu bangsa kitai pedih amai ka bulih scholarship taja pan bulih result ka manah (yayasan sarawak 90% diberi ka melayu), gawa perintah, bulih subsidi,ngelun bank, bulih tender, minta lesen kontraktor/business enggau mayuh macam agi. Baka ka geng dayak lama, laban ka slalu nyilat tumbung enggau nginsap BU*** sida jabu enggau taib kati enda bulih duit enggau projek beri taib / jabu deh.

32. Lelayang Terebai Lemai on October 30th, 2009 2:42 pm

    Api Iban, Indai Cina, anak Nama Bansa.

    Kes baka tudah Marina amat “hot issue” laban ngelamatu sangka aku kes ke bakanya sigi Bangsa Iban/Bumiputera.

    Aku bisi suba minta anak ka masuk ke anak aku ke MRSM dalam tahun 2004 (UPSR) lalu bisi ga nerima jawapan ari Mara, madah ke anak aku “Bukan Bumiputera” . Kes anak aku lebih kurang sama enggau kes tu laban Indai ia Cina ditambah agi besekula di Sekolah Cina.

    Nyadi kebuah aku mantai ke kes tu, awak ke sapa bala kitai ke bisi sangkut paut enggau MARA, arap ke ulih ngecek enggau sida ia, enngai ke bala kitai nyau jauh tinggal di belakang ba bidang pelajaran, lebih- lebih agi ia ke endang ulih masuk ngagai IPTA lalu ditagang ketegal “Bukan Bumiputera” sedangkan ia sigi endang “Bumiputera” anak Sarawak.

    Enti bala ke bisi kuasa, baka sida Menteri/YBs agi bekerendut dada, aku enda nemu berapa lama agi orang negerja ke bala kitai Iban ba bidang pelajaran. Kes tu munyi ko jako sida rebai ” just a tip of the iceberg”

    Nyadi ko penemu aku, immediate/temporary solution to this discrimination is:

    1. Send one representative from each ethnic groups in Sarwak and Sabah as a panel of selection of entry in IPTA or Matriculation.

    2. Carry out audit on abuse of power by the officer/ministry

33. bjngskrang on October 30th, 2009 2:43 pm

    kasih tudah endu tu.nya meh gaya urang enggau kitai dayak.seribu satu cara kena urang nekan kitai.tang sapa tuai kitai dayak ka bejaku ke hal tu?

    empiang jabu kerah2 bejaku ke pemansang pelajar anembiak sekula,hak wanita,hal rumahtangga.tang ba kes anak penan suba,iya mampul pending lalu laki iya bekerendut dada(chelaaappp)!!!
    ‘cakap tak serupa bikin-’

    nya alai manah kitai Dayakbaru nulung endu tu,laban iya urang kitai-anak iban.ni cara ti patut meh.adu ka dia ulih kitai.asai ga ti anak kitai bakanya…enda sinu meda!!..tq

34. bujang timpang berang on October 30th, 2009 3:21 pm

    O… wat Rentap..minta tulung nuan madah agai aba d, asoh ia nulung endu ka disebut sida nya. kasih ka ia, amat meh indai ia cina tang meh apai ia bangsa kitai. enti ulih asuh adu ka aba d meh jang au..lalu niri negi ka banga kitai.enggai ka nyau lus jeman ila…god bless

35. BUJANG TATAU on October 30th, 2009 3:45 pm

    It is very interesting to note (Read BP 30 Oct p.4) how YB Dtn. Fatimah Abdullah, YB Abdul Karim Rahman Hamzah, YB Dtk. Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar DARED to openly criticize the Barisan Nasional government policy — racial segregation/polarization/discrimination. Isn’t this what UMNO has ever since so very zealously promoted and aggresively defended!

    Dear YB<
    Let us be human for once. Clearly, you can no longer deny your own very true feelings as Sarawakian. You can no longer continue to supress your consience. Right is Right, Fair is Fair, isn't it!

    Why not also talk about the rampant NCR land grabs by some of your colleagues especially your greying boss? How about speaking against corruption, nepotism, cronyism, crime & injustice of BN against Teo Beng Hock, Miss Altantuya, Keegan . . . .?

    Come on YBs! Some of you have admitted to being married to Chinese, Indian and other non-bumiputras. Now UMNO is a THREAT at your door-step. Why do you want to feed the buaya darat who are out to eat even your children?

    YBs, you have had enough! You know that you can do more good to your family and the Sarawak society. Don't die for UMNO. PAKATAN RAKYAT is race-blind!

36. BUJANG TATAU on October 30th, 2009 4:02 pm

    Alam Borneo Post sari tu, baru ka Dtk Junaidi, Fatimah Abdullah enggau Abdul Karim aja ke bisi mansut ka jaku ngenan ka Endun Marina ak Undau. Oooo…Alfred Jabu, James Jemeut Masing, William Mawan, Michael manyin — kita raja Dayak! Nama kebuah kita nadai ngkeretik?

    Tu baka kita, YB Laut berani agi bejaku ke kami Iban / bansa Dayak. Enti kita takut ngerara UMNO / BN, lebu amai kami ngundi kita suba!

37. Antu Raya on October 30th, 2009 8:45 pm

    From Bujang Tatau

    Let us be human for once. Clearly, you can no longer deny your own very true feelings as Sarawakian. You can no longer continue to supress your consience. Right is Right, Fair is Fair, isn’t it!

    that is really right. Even malay like me feel UMNO is racist. Every dog has its day. Sarawakian malay have no acceptance. Maybe one day kamek orang juak kena tindas UMNO. Madah aja sama melayu, tanga aja sivil servant di opis perintah sio. Mun nyo bukan orang semenanjung. Kito org melayu kat swk tok sik pakei org juak.

38. pakpakku on October 30th, 2009 11:16 pm

    Agi ingat kita lebuh Lim Guan Eng nyebut pasal Dayak Endowment Board, nyau baka nama sida Jabu, Masing nyakal penemu nya??
    Tang ba isu tuk nadai ninga memunyi, enda engkretik lalu baka udog ngelalai ka iku his his his

    Anang ngasoh aku enggau urang nyambut yb2 tuk enti datai ngagai rumah panjai, nadai mai penguntung semina ngiruh ka urang rumah panjai bepupu kena bebeli ka utai pemakai sida ya

39. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 31st, 2009 1:09 am

    It has been going on for years and years. The Education Department, the Ministry of Education has actively discriminated against the Iban and against the Dayak students, since 16 September 1963.

    You guys still don’t understand what is going on here, do you????

    James Masing is not going to say a word. William Mawan is not going to say a word. Alfred Jabu is not going to say anything, because to them, one less Iban in higher education, is one more day in power over their monkey Ibans.

    How can Monkeys speak ??? Have you ever heard a Monkey speak up or converse???? What about the Monkey King, you think that animal speaks???

    Unfortunately, if Jabu and Masing do not stand up now, and raise their concerns, they are falling into a classic trap set by PKR. This is political capital already, who gets their first can be turned around for their advantage.

    Now let us see if the Monkeys from Saribas and Baleh can speak.

40. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 31st, 2009 1:27 am

    Article 161A

    (1), (2) and (3) (Repealed).

    (4) The Constitutions of the States of Sabah and Sarawak may make provision corresponding (with the necessary modifications) to Article 153.

    (5) Article 89 shall not apply to the State of Sabah or Sarawak, and Article 8 shall not invalidate or prohibit any provision of State law in the State of Sabah or Sarawak for the reservation of land for natives of the State or for alienation to them, or for giving them preferential treatment as regards the alienation of land by the State.

    (6) In this Article “native” means -

    (a) in relation. to Sarawak, a person who is a citizen and either belongs to one of the races specified in Clause (7) as indigenous to the State or is of mixed blood deriving exclusively from those races; and

    (b) in relation to Sabah, a person who is a citizen, is the child or grandchild of a person of a race indigenous to Sabah, and was born (whether on or after Malaysia Day or not) either in Sabah or to a father domiciled in Sabah at the time of the birth.

    (7) The races to be treated for the purposes of the definition of “native” in Clause (6) as indigenous to Sarawak are the Bukitans, Bisayahs, Dusuns, Sea Dayaks, Land Dayaks, Kadayans, Kalabit, Kayans, Kenyags (Including Sabups and Sipengs), Kajangs (including Sekapans,. Kejamans, Lahanans, Punans, Tanjongs dan Kanowits), Lugats, Lisums, Malays, Melanos, Muruts, Penans, Sians, Tagals, Tabuns and Ukits.

41. Linut Mulung on October 31st, 2009 3:03 am

    Tu meh gaya orang ngayah, ngemeli, ngemaruh ka bangsa kitai IBAN. Ari suba suba orang ka nemu berati ka penyai Melayu Malaya udah ngeleda, sigi bangsa orang tu deka ngemunas ka bangsa kitai Iban, sida semina rindu ka kitai enti kitai nyadi sida, masuk pengarap sida ia.

    Orang Melayu Malaya, sigi pandai bejako, nama reti 1 Malaysia? Ukai main iklan, commercial break dalam radio kimpin ka 1 Malaysia, Kelebih agi Radio siaran kitai IBAN, lebih lebih ari orang, tang ba penusah, penanggul baka tu ni bisi sida bejako lebih ari bangsa orang bukai? Nadai. Nya meh, laban sigi udah di enyak, di indik orang di ulu ka sida YB ka ngumbai diri tuai Iban, baka nya meh kitai digaga orang.

    Cukup lebu meda pemerani pemintar bala tuai Iban ka begah begah, enti bejako ka nanam sawit ngalah ka tanah NCR Iban nya baru mesai lengan urat rekong sida ia. Enti bejako ka pengerami gawai, ngiling bidai, pekit kumang, pekit keeling, Dayak music enggau utai ka ngasoh GLAMOUR nya baru nombor SATU.

    Enti belakon begambar enggau buban tau ka enggau menteri ari MALAYA cukup enggai alah, dulu gambar sida ia, laban enggai enda glamour. Eh…….apai, merinsa IBAN ENDA nemu diri dikemeli ka LAUT MALAYA.

    Enti munyi penemu enggi DAYAK LAMA, tak enda tau bejako, enda tau mantah orang meh bangsa IBAN tu, titih ka aja penemu baka enggi ia, laban enggi ia aja ka betul, enti enda munyi enggi ia, nya ngelaban PEHINTAH, laban PEHINTAH enda tau di laban. Keruan meh…nuan nya Dayak Lama. Tak sayat, tikau ka ngagai api mensia ka ngembuan penemu baka nya, ngambi ia badu rauh rauh mai orang ngenadak, ngemeli, ngelunggau ka kitai.

    Nya meh ko jako orang, 1 Malaysia nya endang kena ORANG MALAYA, NGEMELAYU ka bangsa kitai. Nuan ka tau ka enggai, NUAN tetap nyembah sida ia laban kitai semina bejako Kediri baka tu, tang nadai pemerani ngelaban sida ia, bejako merak sida ia ka enda nemu reti CARA, PENDIAU, KAUL, PENGIDUP ANAK SARAWAK KA begulai sejalai enggau pangan diri nadai penyarut.

    Cara Melayu Malaya ngelain ka diri ari bangsa CINA & TAMBI di menoa MALAYA DIN dini ka nyadi disebaka ka sida, enti kitai tu begulai baka sida ia din, udu berebut ka pengaya, menoa SARAWAK tu enda olih diwan, ukai nama, laban menoa kitai tu di wan pupu raban bangsa.

    Bangsa Bumiputra nyau nyadi ka senjata kena sida Malaya ngalah ka orang, ngemaruh ka orang lalu betuan ka sida. Uji tak buai sekali jako Bumiputra nya, awak ka sama nyamai ngembuan bangsa diri empu aja, nya jako Bumiputra kena sida micit orang, kena sida betiki nibong, betiki pinang.

    Kitai ka udah dibai sida nyadi Bumiputra pan, tau ngako diri 2nd class Bumiputra, laban sida ka megai ulu, ngatur undang undang, ngubah undang undang. Tak sepenaka ati sida ia meh kitai tu. Enti tau ko sida tau meh. Enti ukai ko sida ukai meh. Sampai kemaya baka tu????

    Penyarakup kitai dalam Federation of Malaysia mayuh penanggul, enti majak nadai pemetul.

    Enti The Constitutions of the States of Sarawak ba Federal din enda berapa terang, tau ka bisi penimpang, kati ENDA tau di ubah nya? Sapa ka bisi kuasa INTEPRET constitutions nya deh? Enti di Sarawak, undang undang ia, Enti Apai Iban, indai bangsa bukai, anak nya SIGI TETAP BANGSA IBAN, Lapa enda tau di titih undang undang nya kini?

    Tu patut diperening, di sidi/sidik sida bala Tuai IBAN, undang undang ka selalu nyadi ka penanggul ka tau nyekat PEMANSANG BANGSA KITAI. Enti enggi laut Malaya, tak abis perkara sebelah teluk di peresa sida ia, laban enggai ka di alah ka orang pangkat TUAN sida ia, tang enti bangsa bukai ngereja pengawa baka nya, sida ngumbai orang bukai RACIALIST.

42. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 31st, 2009 5:35 am

    It’s very simple really. The guidelines used by the Ministry of Education and the National Registration Department, are so obviously different. More to the letter, Officials from the Education Department, who erred in the past, and certified mixed race Iban students for Matriculation courses (Pre U), did so because of only reasons we could surmise or speculate. More to the point, Clause 6A of Article 161A defines a “native” of Sarawak of either being mutually exclusive of those ethnic groups listed in Clause 7, or a mixed person derived of those ethnic groups listed in Clause 7. Technically, the constitution does not recognise any Native of Mixed parentage, outside of Clause 7, irrespective of the origins of either parent.

    For Registration purposes, the Ethnic Group Category is more important, not the “Native” or Bumiputra status. We can assume therefore, that the NRD will recognise a Sea Dayak or Iban, if the father in question is a Sea Dayak or Iban. For Official purposes a mixed race child whose father is Iban, will be registered as an Iban by the NRD. He or she, however, will not be recognised as a “native” or “bumiputra” of Sarawak, therefore outside of the normal rules for those recognised as Bumiputras.

    The Issue here is again simple. Your ethnicity is not in question, only the “native” status. How that is reconciled, well there are other courses of action, but as a matter of law, and interpretation, and even practicality, Article 161A Clause 6A and Clause 7 can be inflexible when put to practice, by officialdom. It is politically dangerous, because at a stroke, I am guessing more than 100,000 Ibans can be defined as Mixed Race, outside of the normal rules for the Bumiputra category.

    Anyway, this student should finish her Form 6, achieve the highest marks that are set, and the opportunity for charitable scholarships, either from Yayasan Sarawak, Shell, Petronas, or other Charitable Institutions (Chinese presumably) will assist, where they can, and where she wants to apply.

43. Manang Empangau on October 31st, 2009 7:00 am

    Lelaki lebih bekuasa ari sida indu laban sida dulu digaga petara ari sida ke indu. Tang kitai anang deka ngindik sida iya peneka ati. Ba senentang kuasa tu, kitai lelaki sigi dipadu petara nyadi tuai bilik alu sida indu mesti dibasa kitai lelaki naka limit ke diberi petara ga. Enti enda, kitai sigi enda dinahka sida makai alu sida pen deka melu (nyadi indai belu). Enda patut endar ga sida indu nyau diberi kuasa penuh. Enti utai nya nyadi, atur kitai anak mensia pen deka bechelaru ga. Well, respect your wife like you respect yourself. Anang deka nyeluk ungkap ikan sakam ba sebelah sungai alu tetangkapka ikan tapah ba sebelah ungkap. Anang deka bejegau sebelah malam alu besatup enggau indai belu dalam pab.

    Baka ke dipeda ba batu ilau aku, enti apai iya iban, indai china, anak seduai nya tau dikumbai kitai anak Iban. Enti apai iya china alu indai iya kayan, anak seduai dikumbai kitai anak china ga.

    Manang Empangau

44. semada api on October 31st, 2009 7:34 am

    Penemu aku, kitai dayak (iban, bidayuh n etc.) mesti bejurai ka penanggur bansa kitai. Enti enda kitai dayak mutar ka penanggur tu sapa adi.

    Bansa bukai gaga meda kitai tinggal ke belakang. Mulut sida iya madah ka semua bansa Malaysia mesti nganjung anak ke seluka. Abis nadai setiap iko anak kitai di Malaysia mesti ambis sekula sekurang-kurangnya dalam primary 6. Ingat kita? Enti apai-indai enda nganjung anak sida sekula, apai-indai anambiak tu ka di jil.

    Aku minta semua kitai dayak iya ka megai gerempong ba SDNU, SADIA,DBNA enggau gerempong ka bukai deka bejako ka penanggur tu. Sida politik anang ngarapka bejako ka penanggur bansa kitai, laban sida takut ka dibuai ari pati perintah. Maya bepilih ka datai sida enda dicalon nyadi wakil rakyat agi. you and me have to fight for it.

    thanks.

45. anakmit on October 31st, 2009 8:32 am

    NAMA KE NGEMEDIS BECARUT KE PENGAWA BAKA NYA.

    UJI ASUH BADU AJA IYA KE GAWA BA OPIS PELAJARAN NYA!!!!!
    DIATU RAKYAT ASING NDA ULIH NYAMBUNG SEKULA SAMPAI SEKOLAH MENENGAH.

    UJI TA PANSUT SEKALI KITAI SARAWAK ARI MALAYSIA.

    NUNDA SINGAPORE!!!!!
    ATAU PUN NUNDA KOREA, BC KOREA UTARA & KOREA SELATAN.

46. Pengajar Udah Pencen on October 31st, 2009 11:06 am

    Selamat Pagi kaban;

    Enti kita udah bisi macha Borneo Post pagi tu, kita tentu ulih merati ke penemu bala tuai party politik kitai Dayak.Arinya kita ulih bebebanding ke pengelandik bala sida ngereja pengawa.Tang utai ti tau ngalit ke ati, kati bala sida nadai berunding enggau pangan diri mai pekara tu ngagai Dewan Parliament ?

    1.YB Sallang betul ti ngasuh ketuai ari opis pelajar nya belajar baru.That should start with immediate effect or else the problem will continue.

    2.DP Jabu madah ke diri ‘will study the case first’,but when will he come with a concrete solution ? ..1 year/2 years.. by then many people will be victimised….not an acceptable solution.

    3.Dr J Masing..based on merit..not acceptable at all,the victimisation will continue as the real problem not solved.

    4.Richard Riot made a good point, and said he will bring it out during the current session of the pariliament.Let us wait and look forward to a quick solution.

    5.Michael Manyin…no sound as yet still partying after the ‘Dato Sri’ award.. may be.Hope he will come out with his opinions.

    This subject brought out by DB is by far the most important issue affecting Dayak students.It is very timely.

    Somehow we need changes to improve our community,especially in the field of higher education.TQ

47. tudip@too deep on October 31st, 2009 11:11 am

    Penemu aku, sigi utai salah, salah meh nya. Anang ka ngemeli uhang iban.

48. Futurist on October 31st, 2009 12:00 pm

    This is what I predicted before…

    “Race Column” Dalam Pom Ba Upis Perintah

    Source: http://mansangmaju.com/?p=443

    1Malaysia just like a dressing in a plate of Salad!

49. MERAMAT TAJAK on October 31st, 2009 3:58 pm

    Tan Sri Khalid has proposed 10% of seats in UITM be reserved for qualified non-Bumiputera students.To which: UMNO youth had wasted no time in flexing themselves as the vanguard of Bumiputera rights.

    And so,it is no surprise if the bureacrats in the UITM board of governors would burn their midnight candle and prepare a screening criteria, that would have put the Nazis to shame.They would certainly get an earful from the UMNO youth, if only 1 non-Bumiputera student, manage to elude their filters and get enrolled in UITM. God forbid, if such a mistake is allowed to happen !

    Looking at the case of Marina, who would not only be the pride of his parents, but is the pride of Dayak Iban everywhere, one can’t help but felt the anguish of the parents.

    And its also good to note that this morning the usual round up of our Dayak YBs, appear to be less hesitant to voice their concern about the mistakes,and promising all sorts of actions to rectify the mistakes.James Masing even propose similar line of thought as Khalid, while Joe Salang flatly stated that the bureaucrats were wrong.

    There were smattering of references to the difference of Bumiputera definition between Sarawak and the Federal Constitution, and the difference between the Constitutions and the Interpretation Ordinance. And yes, in spite of Rais Yatim, public statement that 1Malaysia does not change the racial divide by law, many makes vacous reference to the spirit of 1Malaysia.

    Looking at this from a different plane, I can’t help feeling the pain, if I were to be one of the parents of Indians and Chinese school children, who would be equally as deserving as Marina, in every respect – except that they are, obviously non-Bumi.Further, imagine if they can’t afford the fees at private institutions such as Sunway College, Tunku Abdul Rahman Collegue, Kolej Damansara, Lim Kok Wing etc.

    Is it not probable that the UITM authorities, in cahoot with other like-minded forces, may have consciously set up this “controversy”, simply to remind the rakyat on the privilege of being a Bumiputra ? A staged event, if you will – to remind Bumiputera everywhere to rally behind UMNO and BN, as the defender of continuing segregation of the citizens.

    I’m not ungrateful for the government policy that has helped Sarawak Bumiputera, even if the numbers are relatively low compare with the plethora of programmes designed and implemented to assist Muslim-Bumiputera in Peninsular. But, I have no answer when asked by colleagues, “how long are Malaysians going to continue the charade of unity when there is continuous building of strictures in society to divide people using labels”. Also, I like to think Marina would want to be accepted to any institutions of her choice, and be provided financial support as necessary, on account of her SPM results – and nothing else.Now, when UITM accepted her, and that she would become a successful doctor (I have no doubt),her future non-Bumiputera professional colleagues/peers may still mentally assign the stigma of successful “bumiputera” medical professional on her. Now thats the stuff of race relation untold story. Not good for the future.

    Its not easy to think about the time when Malaysians, would be simply call that. But I think its a worthy vision, if we put a little spin on empathy, and sense of justice. Nothing wrong with helping Bumis to get on their feet. And in fact, absolutely imperative to help the poor Dayaks natives of Sarawak and Sabah to be on par with Peninsula.But only as part of nation building – a necessary, and temporary evil. Put a roadmap together. Define milestones for review. Thereafter, once all the objectives are met, within a timebound schedule (50,100 years), then (re)launch 1Malaysia – with a new Fed and State constitutions, plus all the songs and dance numbers.

50. Manang Empangau on October 31st, 2009 5:02 pm

    Ingat meh. Enti apai iya Iban, sigi bansa Iban meh anak iya Igat.

    Enti indai iya china alu apai iya iban, sigi bansa iban meh anak.

    Enti apai china alu indai iban, sigi bansa china meh anak. Peturun anak lelaki sigi china meh. Alu peturun anak indu enti beranak ulih nurun ka bansa bukai, nitih ke sapa bansa ke enggau iya jadi. Enti anak indu jadi enggau kayan, anak iya pen bansa kayan ga. Peturun anak indu sigi bisi besai peluang pulai agai bansa iban baru jemah ila.

    Anak Type pen bansa Melanau ga amat idung Suliman nya juhing junggang junggang baka idung burong Sesame Street. Anak Type ke jadi enggau anak Achan deka nurunka bansa Melanau ga. Nya alai, uchu Achan sigi bansa Melanau meh.

51. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on October 31st, 2009 6:50 pm

    Come on, the Ministry of Education is right, on the legal definitions of Sarawak Natives. What would happen if the Ministry of Education’s guidelines on Sarawak Natives is taken and used by other departments of State and departments of federal government????

    Have any of you thought about that??? This is 1Malaysia, and this is legal discrimination, and the worse thing is, it is legal and correct. It says so in the Federal Constitution of Malaysia.

    You are not a native of Sarawak if your father or your mother is not a member of those ethnic groups, mentioned in Clause 7 of the Constitution of Malaysia. Culturally, a mixed race person, may identify with one group or the other, but for federal purposes, the native category is there set in stone.

52. Manang Empangau on October 31st, 2009 9:00 pm

    So, the uchu Unggal Jaboo from his anak indu ke jadi enggau bansa bukai nya tau ngaku diri iban ari indai iya. Tang enti uchu nya pulai ke menua laki iya, kati ku uchu nya ngambu bansa diri deh? Pelaba aku, uchu nya sigi ka proud amat madahka diri sama bansa enggau apai iya. Anak Igat Hentap nya baru amat terang terang uchu Unggal Abu.

53. tudip@too deep on October 31st, 2009 9:09 pm

    In this free land of ours, we have succumb to ‘divide and rule’ concept although ‘APARTHEID’ has no place in this free land.
    This is the mirror of apartheid that was practiced years back in South Africa.
    Where is Nelson Mandela of Malaysia? I guess he was not born yet. If he is born we are going to loose many innocence lives.

    1Malaysia is just a slogan to trick our mind. Behind the trick is apartheid.

54. Langgai Tinggang on October 31st, 2009 10:00 pm

    Marina is NOT is FIRST and the LAST !!!!!!!! Our kids will also be MARGINALISED by these CULPRITS!!!!

55. Langgai Tinggang on October 31st, 2009 10:11 pm

    Kaban DB,

    Who are the BUMIPUTERA???? I think we are NOT for we are being MARGINLIZED all these while.

    If you filled any application forms, you are LAIN-LAIN. YOU ARE NOT BUMIPUTERA1111111 This is OUR ONE MALAYSIA. One Malaysia is BULLSHIT!!! Tai babi!!!!

56. raja merom on November 1st, 2009 12:02 am

    Tabi semua kaban.

    Anang nganu perintah bakih. Ba penemu aku Pegawai ke betanggungjawab ngadu ka nembiak masuk ngagai matrik nya patut anjong jampat ngagai Spital Gila ba Tanjung Rambutan laban untak iya bisi enda betul, wayar maioh short. Enti enda anjung ngagai Jong Crocodile Farm awakka empa jago. Enda pia bakih.

    Nya aja kaban.

57. apaiSaloi on November 1st, 2009 1:40 am

    ni yb william nyalau. kerah kerah kempen tiap minggu ba rumah panjai nyuroh anak Iban belajar pandai. bejakolah ba parlimen madah ngagai sida semenanjung anang buli kitai baka tok. leboh wan junaidi madah ka fakta wakil ari sarawak nadai bemunyi ba parlimen enggai ga sida ningga. nyamai niboh nyadi wakil rakyat

58. Manang Empangau on November 1st, 2009 9:04 am

    Bah! Kati sida dulu din ulih nganjong anak belajar ke tikas ke tinggi agi enti nyau dimarginalized deh? Nadai guna ka bejaku kimpin baka unggal W. Semalau nya kerah kerah ba rumah panjai enti enda biberi peluang, dipilih deh? Nya gaya ka ngetan taut ga laban iban dulu din senang dikemelikka iya.

59. Antu Kamba09 on November 1st, 2009 10:04 am

    Malaysia nama endor kitai diau, ka iya kimpin berpilih ka YB parti pembangkang sigi nadai ulh menang. Baka duit, enti sema sida iya menang, ukai ari sida iya tang ari Kerajaan Pusat. Nya meh tak titih ka aja meh………….Maioh sikap ke pilih kasih dlm Malaysia. Nama aja demokrasi habuk……. pan X ada…..

60. MJC on November 1st, 2009 12:44 pm

    LT,

    Tat ke sigi asai iya, riri enda nakal !Sapa ngasoh nuan ngelaban perintah. Anang agi tuboh nuan, anak uchu nuan will get more brunt of the BN marginalisation programme, hence forget your Bumi status. They are meant for BN native anyway.

61. Dayak Jihad Militan on November 1st, 2009 3:57 pm

    Federal Constitution 161A,Clause 6 & 7 definition of Native bumiputra is very clear & understood by all.No Q & nothing is wrong with the Officer? Sarawak pure Dayak(tulen) both parents are natives of Sarawak now is the time to fight for your right(Tuntut Hak bumiputra kita)daripada mereka yang salah guna kuasa hak Bumiputra(Native)perlu dirompak.

    -If i am a lawyers and if i am the parent of that school Girl and if i got enough money.
    -Now is my time to Saman(Sue) CM Taib Mahmud, Menteri 2x Dayak,MPs & YBs yang isteri 2x mereka bukan Dayak(Native) tetapi anak mereka mengunakan hak Bumiputra(Native) untuk melanjutkan Pelajaran IPTA Tempatan dan mendapat Peluang Perniagaan(Projek)dan harta RM berjuta 100x,RM Billion 10x perlu dirujuk, dibatalkan, dirompak dan diberikan kepada Rakyat Bumiputra Sarawak(Natives) Dayak asli/Orang Asal tempatan tulen! Undang 2x adalah sama kepada semua rakyat jelata perlu dipatuhi.
    -Kerajaan BN (Perintah BN) berciping/tidak adil kepada Rakyat Dayak biasa tempatan. Jika benar mereka kata Pegawai tersebut salah/silap buat keputusan jika berani dan benar buktikan dengan tindakan suruh Menteri/YBs/MPs tersebut ambil tindakan terhadap Pegawai tersebut. Alasan mereka adalah omong kosong saja.
    -Hidup Dayak (Natives) Tulen/Asli Orang Asal Tempatan dipelihara.

62. John Jamban on November 1st, 2009 4:31 pm

    Parti Penyakal DB,

    Endun ari Sri Aman tu Bumiputra enti nitih ke constitutional defination.She nevertheless cannot enjoyed the Bumiputra status accorded to special Bumiputra. Nemu DB kebuah? Opis pelajar udah chukup pansik lalu Apai/Indai Endu di temu udah ngelaban perintah/ enda ngundi perintah. Ari nya iya empu bumi status udah di”nullified”.

    Nya kebuah DL berat-rat enda ngasoh bala DB ngelaban perintah. Enti Endun tu anak bala sida Dayaklama udah tetap iya olih masuk
    maticulasi.Nya alai berunding panjai meh kita bala DB apin pekara tu nyadi ba bala kita empu.

63. terunasam on November 1st, 2009 6:33 pm

    Unggal John Jamban,

    Anang irau nuan, tan dia meh “Perintah Jamban” nuannya, kami ka bansa DB nadai kala nyebut ngelaban perintah tang sigi ngelaban BN (Bau Najis)..hehehehe…46 taun udah belalu…nyau bala endar ga bau sida tu deh….

    Kira udah cukup paus meh kami ka bansa DB ditu nyium “Bau Najis” nya…hehehehe….

    Undang2 tauka polisi sigi digaga mensia…munyi ko laut “Mahu Tolong Seribu Daya, Tidak Mahu Tolong Seribu Dalih”…hehehehe…

    So…BN nya sigi bansa mayuh dalih…hehehee…Bansa Ngemula (BN)…hehehehe…

64. Akiq Hawong on November 1st, 2009 7:23 pm

    Apooo ….amat enda bechiping endar meh perintah neh Igat J. Agu Pemira! Sigi patut ga sida penyakal enda iboh diberi utai ari perintah. Lakka sida iya bira ba ujong anju, nadai agu neh! Penyakal sigi sepi asai sida iya bangat tak ka kieh amai deka ngelaban perintah. Sepi asai penyakal nyau enda nemu jera neh Igat! Slogan kata IM nya sigi endang ungkup urang ke nyukong perintah aja ga enti munyi nya. Nya alai kita anang ka gesah gesah deka ngelaban perintah. Amat munyi ku Igat J. Agu nya. Kita anang ka ngelaban perintah enti kita enggai enda disengkaum dalam 1Malaysia.

    Enti kita majak deka ngelaban perintah, kita sigi agi mengkang bira ba ujong tanju ila.

    Akiq Hawong

65. Raja Merom on November 1st, 2009 7:59 pm

    Tabi kaban,

    My point of contention, nama kabuah anak indu unggal Endau nya ke tuai agi ulih ga masuk Matrik lalu ulih ga masuk USM? Tang anak indu iya ke biaknya tau enda ulih. Is the previous cases an overlooked or is it because a different officer is handling the matrik intake or what? My gut feeling is that it is still an official blunder which the Ministry concerned is still trying to cover up. We have to look at this issue rationally. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Anyway I wish the best for endun Marina and I am sure your ambition to become a doctor one day will be realised. You have to be resilient and never give up. Enti aya dek tu nyau tuai ila nyau maioh penyakit, anang enda manah-manah ngubat aya dek tu ila. Sida endun tu meh utai ke patut di teladan bala anak kitai Dayak kamaia ari tu. Nadai ngawa indai Cina enti apai Iban, Iban meh iya nya.

    Nya aja kaban.

66. asam jawa on November 1st, 2009 8:33 pm

    Let me refer you all from these articles:

    KUCHING: Getting her Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) result was the best – and the worst thing that could happen to Marina Undau.

    The 18 year old science stream student of SMK Simanggang scored 9As and 1B in the SPM examination last year.

    She thought she was on her way to university, especially being a Bumiputra and all, but that was not to be.

    Born to an Iban father and a Chinese mother, Marina’s life was turned upside down when her application to undergo a university matriculation programme was rejected by the Ministry of Education. The Ministry determined that she is not a ‘Bumiputra’.

    He dreams were crushed and in the process she lost part of her identity and the drive that that made her a top scorer. With no chance of entering university for now, Marina has started Form 6 in her old school.

    Asked what she thought of everything that was happening, she replied: “What worries me is that will this happen again when I pass my STPM next year?”

    And what confuses Marina more is how her elder sister could further her studies in Universiti Sains Malaysia in Pulau Pinang where she is now in her second year without ever having her identity questioned.

    When Marina’s application was rejected, Undau (the father) contacted the Education Ministry’s Matriculation Department in Putrajaya on June 23 and was told that her daughter was not a ‘Bumiputra’.

    Dissatisfied, the father, a government servant, wrote to the ministry on July 1 and the reply he got shocked him, and it bound to challenge the identity of many Sarawakians who are born of mixed parentage.

    The ministry said in a reply on July 14 that Undau’s appeal was turned down because “the candidate is categorized as non-Bumiputra (father is Iban and mother Chinese)” based on a definition used by the Student Intake Management Division, Higher Learning Department and Higher Education Ministry.

    Their definition is as follows:

    # Semenanjung – If either parent of a candidate is Malay who is a Muslim/Orang Asli as defined in Article 160 (2) of the Federal Constitution, the child is considered a Bumiputra.

    # Sabah – If the father of the candidate is a Malay/native of Sabah as defined by Article 161a(6)(a) of the Federal Constitution, the child is considered a Bumiputra.

    # Sarawak – If the father and mother is a native of Sarawak as defined under Article 161A (6)(b) of the Federal Constitution, the child is considered a Bumiputra.

    Article 161a of the Federal Constitution

    In this Article ‘native’ means –

    (a) in relation to Sarawak, a person who is a citizen and either belongs to one of the races specified in Clause (7) as indigenous to the State or is a mixed blood deriving exclusively from those races;

    (b) in relation to Sabah, a person who is a citizen, is the child or grandchild of a person of a race indigenous to Sabah, and was born (whether on or after Malaysia Day or not) either in Sabah or to a father domiciled in Sabah at the time of the birth.

    (7) The races to be treated for the purposes of the definition of ‘native’ in clause (6) as indigenous to Sarawak are the Bukitans, Bisayahs, Dusuns, Sea Dayaks, Land Dayaks, Kadayans, Kelabit, Kayans, Kenyahs (including Sekapans, Kejamans, Lahanans, Punans, Tanjongs dan Kanowits), Lugats, Lisums, Malays, Melanaus, Muruts, Penans, Sians, Tagals, Tabuns and Ukits.

    A spokesperson for the National Registration Department here said that in Sarawak, if a person is born to an Iban and his mother is Chinese, he is considered as an Iban according to the race of his father.

    http://thebrokenshield.blogspot.com/

    If the Higher Ministry of Education really applies the ruling as it does to Marina, then many of those having native fathers with Chinese as their mothers in Sarawak will suffer.

    For Marina, her status as a Bumiputra is being questioned and it is made worse by the amendment to the Sarawak Interpretation Ordinance in 2004 when the State Government banned the use of the word “Dayak” in official communication. Thus “Sea Dayak” has been changed to “Iban”, “Land Dayak” has become “Bidayuh” and “Murut” to “Lun Bawang”.

    The words “Iban, Bidayuhs and Lun Bawang” are not listed in Article 161a (7) and thus they are considered as non-natives under the Federal Constitution.

    The legal effects of these are many and Marina when she puts her race as Iban, she is not considered as native or Bumiputra, and should not be accorded any privileges given to natives.

    Even now, there are efforts to say that Ibans do not have any native customary rights over land as they are not natives according to the law due to the amendment to the Interpretation Ordinance.

    When the bill was passed, our Dayak elected representatives including Alfred Jabu, William Mawan, Michael Manyin and James Masing were too eager in supporting the amendment in 2004. They did not realise the legal implications.

    From now on, it is advisable for Iban when filling a form asking for race, to write down “Iban (Sea Dayak)” to ensure that they are not going to be disqualified. I believe Marina could have been a victim of the doing of our elected representatives.

    Since the story has been highlighted by The Borneo Post, our leaders like Jabu, Masing and Mawan should do something to help her and many others by urging the authorities to relax the conditions of entry to matriculation, etc.

    These students really need their help since they (ministers and our elected representatives) are walking along the corridors of power and rub shoulders with the powers that be.

    If they can do this, then they really help Prime Minister Najib Razak in his campaign of 1Malaysia. Otherwise the 1Malaysia is a mere lip service.

    These are the issues that our Ministers – Jabu, Mawan, Masing and Manyin – should be very vocal and firm in fighting for the rights, the future and livelihood of the Dayaks rather than shouting at the top their voices on petty issues such as “cawat” “sirat” (loin clothes) or Miss Dayak Borneo pageant contest

    Info

67. Akiq Hawong on November 1st, 2009 9:03 pm

    Dalam bejalaika pengawa IMalaysia, julok nya sigi enda ulih japai enti kitai ka nyakal perintah. It’s very important for people to have the correct mindset. Don’t go against the governemt. Penyakal sigi enda patut nerima utai ari perintah. Sida patut nerima utai ari penyakal ga, ni naka ke ulih beri. Enti ka meda bala penyakal ulih meri utai ke manah ke penyukong diri, sida patut kereja bebendar maya bepilih ila ga. Sida penyakal pen ulih meh ngaga IMalaysia enti sida megai perintah. Pelaba aku, Lim Guan Eng diatu benong ngeringka IPenang ga. Bah! It’s possible. Penang can so we can do it too.

68. raja merom on November 2nd, 2009 1:53 am

    Miss Marina Endau,

    Don’t worry, you are 1000% Iban. Belajar amat amat nuan awak ka nyadi lutor ila , ulih nulong kitai bansa dudi ari. You are our inspiration. That stupid officer in charge of matrik intake can go to hell lah.

    We are 1000% behind you.

69. Manang Empangau on November 2nd, 2009 7:04 am

    Sometimes this thing happens coz someone wants to selit their own people. You won’t be surprise to find out that if the one who got lower SPM result than Marina could get the place. Aku kenal kau, kau kenal saya, so, I’ll try to help your anak to get the place.

70. segatak on November 2nd, 2009 12:18 pm

    Anang ngenyalah orang bukai pasal nembiak kitai iban ke enda ulih belajar agai pelajar tinggi tang pemimpin kitai iban kelalu nadai utai ulih semina pandai bejako maya kempen politik,pandai berebut ke kuasa aja tang maya udah bulih kuasa nadai utai ulih gaga,panadai nilat pelir bansa bukai dikena ngemaju ke diri aja.Nama kepentingan bansa kitai tik bisi dipelihara pemimpin kitai.Pemimpin kitai nadai ision deka ngamaju ke bansa tang nama rakyat bansa kitai iban enda nitih utai ko sida baru sida nyebut bansa kitai tok degil..Tak nadai guna langsung meh pemimpin kitai iban dalam pemansang bansa..nama pemimpin kitai iban enda nemu bansa kitai tok dikemelik ke bansa bukai ari suba-suba… uji asoh parai magang sida ia nya.Bado ngundi sida ia maya election ke deka datai ila

71. Iban Abroad on November 2nd, 2009 5:53 pm

    DB,

    Apai Iban, Indai Cina but Anak is not Bumiputra,

    Jako DL, JB and other BN backbenchers are wright. This is part of BN game in discriminating Dayak especially Iban, who are against the gomen. The game is just started. DB will see more and more of such thing in time to come unless the gomen/leader are changed.

    I think, this family need non-political association like SDNU, NGO, Sarawak Teachers Association, BAR even DB hand for help. Pls do someting on this.

    Ngagai apai seduai Indai Endu tu, Uji meh minta baru lalu mai bala ke nemu agi reti utai tu, anang putus asa.

    Keep such incident in DB files, hopefully our next generation can see it, do not makes it lost like 18 points. Once it lost, it will hard to find it.

    Anyway this is part of DB Blog responsibility, give & keep information regarding the Dayak matters.

72. Jimmy A on November 2nd, 2009 9:58 pm

    Petikan Laporan Berita Eastern Times.
    Muka depan 2nd Nov.2009.

    The Bumiputra Dilemma ?

    YB Menteri Dr.James Masing said.
    -The Cabinet Committe for indorsing Bumiputra Status meets once a year and Chaired by CM Pehin Sri Taib Mahmud,has so far approved hundreds of application with the only criterion that one of the parents must be a native.
    -This committe gives final endorsement to the application of those who applied to be natives.
    -Do we now have to nullify what we have approved? Ask YB Menteri Dr.James Masing.
    -What the Committe had done so far was in violation of the law? Federal Constitution Articles 161(A) about Sarawak Natives.

    -Federal Constitution defines native of Sarawak as the offspring of two natives parent.
    -Articles 161(A) showed that only the offspring of two natives would lightly,legally and constitutionally be termed as Native.

    -Former AG Datuk JC Fong says that the Federal Laws are Supreme and Prevail Over States Laws.
    -Wan Junaidi wife is a Chinese had been given a Malay Status by the Native Court of Sarawak. Under the Federal Constitution and the Children Satus will continued to remain Malays but non Natives. he said.

    My Comments is that the Dayaks can see very clearly over and over again the blatant discrimination or unfairness against the ordinary Dayaks.The Authority Power of CM Pehind Sri Taib and the Menteri(S) can do anything above the Laws and no Q.
    -Those MPs,YBs,and their Families Childrens whose fathers or mothers was not a Natives got the Bumiputra or Native Status without Q or illigally thy got the benefits right of the Bumiputra and the Natives.
    -Those who are making the lost or rugi are the ordinary Dayaks, the Parti Pembangkang are discriminated, sideline, etc like criminals or Foreigners in their own country..

73. malong on November 3rd, 2009 2:31 pm

    1malaysia utk politik najib.Dayak iban….sapa?? Dayak YB ka *********** beri pangkat/kantau lebih. Ka ngelaban Taib…pemangsang disekat.
    1 malaysia= tunjuk jari(goyang2 sikit) Amaran!!!
    kalau u lawan…siap.

74. Aya Bujang Tuai on November 3rd, 2009 10:44 pm

    If what DL said is correct that those who go against the govt of the day will be discriminated then no point for us to hold election every 5 years. This is another threatening concept of the BN. DL capitalise on this subject.Let this present govt go on forever is what he want to hear.
    Now alot of YBs will get the hook. JM already knew so he divorce his ribai wife and get a Kayan, Taib no more ribai wife married to Malay. How about Wan Junaidi/Joseph Salang/Leo Moggie and many others, are they going to divorce their present wife. If not their anak are not bumiputra.

75. ex-student on November 5th, 2009 11:39 am

    Funny huh! Guess what, when I went for my scholarship interview, the first thing the Education Officer asked me “You said you are mixed Chinese-Iban. Nuan nemu jako Iban ke enda?” So, I answered him, “Nemu!”. Not long after that, I received the scholarship and to my surprise, my status in the university was categorized as BUMIPUTRA SARAWAK though I carried only a Chinese surname. In my case, both my grandpas are Chinese and both my grandmas are Ibans. By right I should be a Chinese. If West Malaysia public university can accept me as Bumiputra Sarawak, why can’t a local education office accept a girl of an Iban father as anak Iban? My friends were even better, their fathers were Chinese but their mothers were Orang Ulu, and they were not only carrying Chinese surnames, they also have Chinese names! But you know what, they were also categorized as BUMIPUTRA SARAWAK in my university! Even funnier, my friends could not speak a single word of any Chinese Language. At least I can speak Mandarin as my parents insisted me to study in a Chinese primary school. In my personal opinion, this is an issue of subtle discrimination that prolonged for many generations. Someone has to step up and bring this matter to the public’s attention. When it’s public, our YBs have no choice but to act! This is about the Sarawakians future and it shouldn’t be swept under the carpet.

76. raja merom on November 5th, 2009 8:33 pm

    Ex Student,

    That is why I still insist it is an official blunder rather than constitutional. It is the officer’s own interpretation. How come the older sister in USM is recognise as a Bumiputra, while she is not recognise as Bumiputra?

    To change the constitution take times and must get the nod of 2/3 of the Parliment. But when it concern education, we just cannot wait. Once you miss the boat, you will left behind. No second chance.

    There got to be some other faster alternative such as simple official recognition while waiting for the constitutional changes. Maybe the Home Ministry is the right authority to preside and decide on this matter.

77. Temawai Lama on November 5th, 2009 8:50 pm

    Tabi Kaban,,

    Manah agi kitai bepegai ka constitution, anang berganjak. Semina pure breed native oleh nyadi bumi. Anak campur/penakan endang enda layak.

    Orang tuai kelia baka sida Tun Jugah, Penghulu Abok sigi orang ke bepandang jauh lalu nemu utai ke patut nyadi bumiputera.

    Nya kebuah kita ka jadi enggau Indu Cina & tambi? Enti kita jadi enggau land dayak, sea dayak, kenyah, kayan enggau ukit nadai utai tu nyadi bakanya.

    Kita nemu nukar constitution amat tusah. Nadai jalai sekali baka maia diatu laban parti penyakal udah maioh ari satu pertiga.

    Nya aja kaban.

78. PE on November 5th, 2009 11:33 pm

    Igat Tembawai Lama, kati ka bala sida enda jadi ke indu china indu tambi indu ribai deh ga enggi sida tu nyamai agi, enda bau tengong ( pelaba ke???). Ka jadi ke indu iban tang bala indu iban tak berebut enggai. Peda nuan anak bala sida DL jai pan gamal laki ka meh sida ke indu asal ga enda jadi ke lelaki iban. Nama enda bansa anak sida tu ila kini? Mesti nadai ‘anak’ agi dalam nama sida??

79. raja merom on November 6th, 2009 12:18 am

    Unggal TL,

    Bisi ga pengamat utai ke dikenang nuannya unggal. Simple logic, enti nyema udok kampung lusong tadi nyaru udok German Sheperd, anak seduai nya tadi tentu nyadi cross-breed. Enggai nyadi anak udok nya tadi dikumbai pure-breed neh bakih. Bakanya ga kitai mensia.

    Bisi meh kabuah sida ke dulu menya ngadu ka constitution bakanya. Tang munyi ko orang “cinta itu buta”, munyi ko lagu Jeffry Molly, “enti pengerindu udah beserangan”, dini nya ulih ngira bansa agi. Utai ke dibaroh nya ukai nemu berunding bakih, majak ka penemu iya aja.

    Pedis amat pala berunding ka pekara tu bakih. Ngirup ai ijok dulu manah agi. Lama enda palau.

    Nya aja kaban.

80. kennethaktuba on November 6th, 2009 11:18 am

    Dr. John Brian,
    Manah amat pekara tu kena kitai enchelak ke mata bakani perintah Malaysia megai kitai Dayak di Sarawak. Ukai semina ba kes madik Marina Undau, mayuh agi utai tu nyadi ngagai nembiak kitai Dayak ke bukai ti enda ulih nyambung pelajar ngagai peringkat ke tinggi agi serta ngambi professional course di universiti baka medicine, engineering, law enggau accounting. *ukai aku ngemaruh ke course bukai, semua course kitak bisi reti ya empu*

    Ari aku,
    Kenneth ak Tuba
    University of Malaya, KL.

81. Antu Kamba09 on November 7th, 2009 11:12 am

    Kaban Kenneth,
    Nadai bansa kita Dayak,cina tauka tambi ulh enchelak ka mata……….Tu dunya laut, enti sema kita samoa ukai ngena AK/AL/FONG SAI YOK ba kad pengelala nyangka ulh kitai tuchum mimit. Sema nuan berunding kitai makai jani, sembiang nyangka sbln 1 tauka 2 kali tua datai ba gereja. Tang sida laut 5 kali sembiang sari endang sigi kitai alah…..Aku maioh udah berati ka samoa pengawa di Malaysia tu…nadai bansa kitai Iban bc megai pengawa ka besai……..uji kitai meda ba Sarawak Tai Mahmud megai kitai……….Bc suba bansa kitai ti tau mechah sereta mai kitai bansa Dayak tu tapi diatu mulut iya udah disumbat enggau duit ringgit nyau lalu nadai bemunyi agi meh sampai ka diatu……..
    Antu_Kamba09
    WILAYAH PERSEKUTUAN
    KUALA LUMPUR

82. ex-student on November 7th, 2009 9:09 pm

    I still don’t get it. How come my friends who are mixed Chinese-Orang Ulu could further their studies to Matriculation but Marina couldn’t? But nowadays, academic isn’t the only thing people will look into when come to selection. You’ve to be an all-rounder. You’ve to be good in extra curricular activities as well. I have heard many times Form 5 school leavers tried to apply the scholarship I was given but failed though they were very good in their studies. I found out these students were simply excelled in their studies but not in other things such as sports or leadership. When I went for my scholarship interview, other students had better result than mine. When we were asked to show our extra curricular certificates, those fellas only gave a few pieces but I gave the interviewers the whole file! They seemed to be very impressed and questioned a lot about the things I’d done in school. Besides, from my experience of applying a few scholarships, the interviewers were also interested with those who were fluent and able to communicate in many languages, which I didn’t have any problem at all! So, I guess they are a lot of factors we need to consider in Marina’s case. I hope by sharing my experience, it’ll help others to see this matter from many angles and to help you to prepare your children for the future possibilities.

83. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on November 7th, 2009 10:17 pm

    If you’re such an all rounder, ex student, what the hell are you doing in a local university anyway?? At least the Malays and Chinese are getting an all round education overseas, but you, you’re stuck in the country, and then you go about how lucky you are for being Chinese Iban?? Do you how arrogant you are now?? Do you realise what you’ve just wrote??? You’re effectively saying that a native girl like Marina, whose father is Iban, has less rights than you. I mean you are a piece of bodoh sombong. You deserve to be pulled down a peg or two.

84. ex-student on November 7th, 2009 11:13 pm

    I’m not saying I’m any better than Marina. I’m not sombong, and I’m not bodoh. All I’m doing is to share my experience. Are you trying to tell people by sharing our knowledge and experience is to show off? Only you can voice your opinion? I am concerned about things that happened to people like Marina. Nama salah aku bekungsi ke penemu awak ke orang Iban nemu keni ka ngatur anak sida enti ka nurun interview minta scholarship tauka minta kerja ila? Aku ngena chuntoh pengidup aku empu ngambi ke kitak nemu nama utai ke digiga interviewer. Moreover, friends whom have seeked my advice before attending their interview got through it. To be honest enggau nuan (Modern Iban Prototype No 1), course aku nya diatu makin kurang bansa bukai, bansa sida Melayu ke majak mayuh. Salah kah aku nulong meri hints ngagai bansa kitai nama utai ke digiga orang maia kitai memohon masuk ke universiti? In fact, in real life, I pay more attention to the Dayaks in my daily work because I want to see them become successful in their life like other races. Enti macha jako nuan ba atas nya, it seems like you’re the one who think too highly of yourself. You’re like the Iban politicians, attacking your own people. Be more positive about what people are saying even nuan enda puas ati tegal penusah ke ninggang bansa nuan empu. Belajar overseas or local, enti penemu kitai enda dikungsi enggau orang pan nadai guna. Anyway, I apologize to everyone for whatever I mentioned here. If according to what Modern Iban Prototype No 1 says, semua kitai ke graduate ari local universities tu nadai guna, enda pandai baka sida ke graduate overseas, enda pia?

85. Modern Iban Prototype No 1 on November 7th, 2009 11:24 pm

    The difference between you and Marina is simple. She deserves to be assisted by the Government, demands that are based on merit. But as the Government claims that Marina Undau is a PENDATANG and apparently YOU a NATIVE, then that means an Iban like Marina, in fact all Ibans like Marina, are PENDATANG too. That is what the Government is saying. I mean if you can read, I am certain you won’t find the word IBAN in the Constitution. Endak pia? So are you DAYAK LAUT or are you IBAN PENDATANG?? Tell me which is it???? Since you claim to be so clever.

    As for your experiences, recognize this, your experience is entirely different to that of Marina. And let me reassure you, Marina is in a world of hurt, emotional and legal pain that she must endure for the rest of her natural life, something which you cannot possibly begin to understand. So, your apology is accepted, Mr All Rounder.

86. ex-student on November 7th, 2009 11:33 pm

    Modern Iban Prototype No 1,
    You can say whatever you want to say. I have my share of hardships before, during and after my scholarship interview. My parents were both living with just ONE kidney each. Family kami kala sampai tahap nadai beras nadai lauk diempa. I’ve been there, done that. My study years were hell. Aku kala nyepi penusah, enti enda pia enda ku ka kiruh ke bansa kitai empu serta pengidup orang bukai. Diatu aku udah nyamai, nama salah aku ka nulong bansa ku empu? Don’t you think I deserved all the good things given by God to me? Success doesn’t come easily to me.

87. Antu Lapar on November 8th, 2009 9:56 am

    Marina Ak Undau, it is simple for you if you are really bright. Entering matriculation or going to form six sama sahaja. Pass your STPM with excellent results and be the top 30 in the country and the government will send you overseas to study- you may enter Havard , Oxford etc. No big deal though local matic is another option. Study hard and score 5As in your STPM.

88. bujang berani on November 18th, 2009 4:53 pm

    Aku amat nyukong penemu bala ti amat berani baka RENTAP ti deka meda bansa kitai IBAN mansang sekula/pelajar. Sigi amat bansa kitai diatu udah deka di apus ka bansa bukai. Tang anang enda ingat kitai bisi TUHAN JESUS KRISTUS ti ulih nulong. Aku pecaya iya APAI ti cukup ninga lalu nyaut sampi kitai leboh anak IYA dalam penusah. Anang ngaku dulu alah sebedau datai ba adan. Bansa bukai semina menang ba dunya tu tang bisi agi dunya ti cukup manah udah nganti kitai ti ngandal ka pengarap ba TUHAN JESUS ti Raja segala Raja. AMEN. Terus mansang terus bejuang/////

89. batu mali ampuh on December 6th, 2009 9:15 am

    SG amatnya y.Semua tok ulih diadu sekira semua ‘yang bula’nda nyadi’yang beli’,'yang amat mapap’.bala “yang bula” bansa kitai sg megai title bula sampai parai.peda dalam parlimen begap2 baka ikan betuk mulut sida,peli2 baka empelasi nya tanda beli.duduk canguk2 nda nemu bejako.Nadai apap megai bansa SEA DAYAK raja berani konon,bah kini kepemerani sidak ia.bepantang bejarau tp jugau!.Nyadi wakil rakyat konon…tapi makai rakyat.anang ka menunutut hak kitai…sida ke wakil rakyatnya ga makai kitai.Nya kebuah kitai jampat parai ketegal orgke bk sida yang bula,yang beli tok…Bakani ka pecaya ke perintah y,uji perati ka kitak semua ooooo ak iban,buka mata besai2,ketegal semua kitak ti senurut org aja bansa kitai tok tengelam

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