So what does it matters if the person is Japanese, Eskimo etc.

Does it means that Dayak only accept Dayak inputs. That is absurd – as knowledge knows no creed and race and caring for others is the same.

I trust that will help this discussion to move forward in an intelligent manner.

Nam hal diatu nemu nyadi bumiputera tu bisi guna deh DB, Nama ngelama tu tak madah nyadi Bumi tu semina nama aja deh. Diatu mua kita nyau pucat laban takut enda digaum nyadi bumiputera deh?

Nama kita ka nyadi bumiputera ke enggai? Uji meh kita nguji sekejap keluar ari status bumiputera, enti ka ensepi asai ia? Peda kita nya asai Cina, Tambi nyentuk ngena IC kitai Iban ka nyimpan duit dalam ASB, nemu kita nama kabuah reti besai NEP,NEP? Laban kitai tambab nya kabuah ia perintah nyau madah ka kitai tu mesti nyukung perintah ke betuai ke bumiputera? Nemu kita kitai mesti betuai ke bumiputera awak ka kitai mesti bisi hak nyadi bumiputera?
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My comment :

Nowsdays we lost the status bumiputra. In sarawak there are only one types of bumiputra. It is people those like JJ, Changop 4$$$$, and all BN blow fan. For those is in opposition party is not bumiputra. NEP ???. Who is using NEP? People in the longhouse?, Penan deep inside the jungle?? Iban that planting paddy every year to fill in their stomach?? It your BN Kaki Bodek that used NEP. What happen to your contract that your get from the gov. You give it to the chinese contractor. These is what we call NEP. NEP just for BN top leaders. Not to the all bumiputra.

You said:
There is no issue here. In the first place who ask them to marry non-dayak.

By marrying non-dayak, they have disowned half of their dayak roots. Thereofre they should be prepare to be not bumiputra. My father and mother are dayak. I am not the same as Marina who is a mongrel. She is not pure and should be considered as non bumiputra like the non-pure.

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My comment:
What about CM’s children and grandchildren???????
ARE THEY MONGREL????????

What about the children AND GRANDCILDREN of your “paramount” LEADERS ????????
ARE THEY MONGREL ????????????

They surely DO !!!!!!!!

So they are not PURE !!!!!! THEY ARE NOT BUMIPUTERA!!!!!!! THEY ARE MONGREL!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder they won’t fight for DAYAK RIGHT!!!!!

So, I HOPE that your children will not marry other races, for if they do, then you are the GRANDFATHER of MONGRELS!!!!!!!

You said:
The DB group are the group of frustrated people who are either the defeated candidate of last election or political scavengers. These people are the true frogs and monkeys of modern politic like Iban prototype No.2.
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My comment:
What do you mean by “political scavengers?”
Would you care to explain!!!!!!!!! I hope your explanation will not just a lump of SHIT !!!!!

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You said:
For the issue of federal const on the bumi issue of swk, let our paramount chief bring this matter to the PM attention.
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My comment:
It’s ironic, for more than 4 decades we’ve been under fed gomen. However, how many Dayak issues have been solved by the colonial fed gomen AND your paramount chief??????
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You said:
Our CM and PM only listen to TSri Jaboo only. In this way, I guessed approach is more acceptable, lies within the BN framework/guideline of solving matters in 1malaysia concept.
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My comment:
Another one of your SHIT in this thread!!!!!!!!!!!

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You said:
Off course nobody disallowed to table this issue of SWK bumi in parliament.
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My comment:
This is because your gomen of the day is pratising DICTATORIAL rules.
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You said:
I guessed BN wanted it to be solved with their own kitchen, not in the parliament knowing very well the opposition is abit arrogant. They only want cheap publicity for their political mileage on this issue.
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My comment:
It is a known fact that your BN is in DENIAL STATE. Always trying to deny that they are shitting in your kitchen. But the truth is out there !!!!!!!!!!

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You said:
Therefore I would suggest let our paramount tackle this problem first within the ambient of BN, not the TIN KOSONG OF DB, because it will create MORE TURBULENT IN THE MUDDY WATER.
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My comment:
Shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You said:

Trust of paramount chief and DL group to handle this. And therefore the THE DAYAK SEMINAR TO DEFINE TERM DAYAK IS NOT NECCESSARY.
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My comment:
“What” paramount chief??????????
Dayaklama ???????? It is also a known fact that you are all “surat khabar lama” !!!!!! Recycled news.

The called to organise the seminar came from PKR advisor and anti BN personality, hence no reason for us to attend or come. Don’t waste your time!

You only know how to criticize others, but what role you play to help your community in this issue. None, I guess.Personally, I support the forum to be held and I am happy to be one of the audience.

Nya meh kami madah, anang ngelaban perintah enti kita agi ka ke status nama bumiputera. Enti kita DB tu semua nyukung BN dini bisi kitai belaban penemu, lalu enti enda belaban penemu kitai sigi ngena penemu lama sigi agi ngetan ka perintah BN.
TU meh tuju kempen kami ngelama tu awak ka kita DB pulai baru ngagai BN, lalu bedau dalam kategori bumiputera meh semua kitai.
Manah meh nya nuan udah nemu pengawa kita ke ngelaban perintah tu salah.

Aku nyukung endar ngaga seminar bakatu. Tu meh chara ke paling manah endor bejurai ka pengawa ngatur bansa kitai.

Jabu/Salang angka amat bisi ngirum surat ke Perintah besai ngenang Status bansa Dayak enda dikumbai Bumiputra. Tang kitai enda nemu nama utai disebut iya dia, lalu bakani chara iya nganjung surat nya serta baka ni sida nitih ka bekau suratnya. Nya enda ditemu kitai. Ngelamatu utai digaga bala ari YB kitai selalu tesangkut, enda tentu lurus.

Anang2X, udah nganjung suratnya bejako ba TV & Surat kahbar madah ke diri ngering ka bansa kitai ba moa mensia maioh, tang ba padang Golf bejako madah ka PM tauka DPM tauka CM utai tu semina jako iya aja, nadai utai patut dikemana ka endar. Penemu YB kitai ke bakatu ke ditakut ka kitai.

Agi ga jako ari sida DL bisi endar bau bakatu, seruran nagang kitai bukai tu baka DB anang kiruh ka Status Dayak ke enda dipasuk ka ba bumiputra laban bisi Jabu enggau Salang udah bejako ka utai tu.

Nyadi ari segi tu, patut endar Seminar tu dipajak ka, kena kitai naga ka pengawa Jabu enggau Salang ke tau limpang.

Agi ga enti, utai tu pajak ka perintah besai enda nerima kitai Dayak masuk dalam katogeri bumiputra, tu tau mai penyarut ke besai. Kitai tau bebunuh ketegal pengawa tu, nyadi tu utai dikenggai ka kitai.

Kitai Dayak tau sedia negi ka menira menoa Sarawak kediri ari Malaysia, mupuk bejako enggau Dunya luar, enti penemu Orang Melayu majak beenggai nerima kitai Dayak dalam golongan Bumiputra. Pengawa perintah besai tu udah jauh limpang ari sejarah.

Nya alai anang guai kitai bansa Dayak nyerah ka senapang kitai ngagai Yang-Di-Kasihi nitih ka runding Unggal DL. Agi bisi guna iya.

Nama kita ka nyadi bumiputera ke enggai? Uji meh kita nguji sekejap keluar ari status bumiputera, enti ka ensepi asai ia? Peda kita nya asai Cina, Tambi nyentuk ngena IC kitai Iban ka nyimpan duit dalam ASB, nemu kita nama kabuah reti besai NEP,NEP? Laban kitai tambab nya kabuah ia perintah nyau madah ka kitai tu mesti nyukung perintah ke betuai ke bumiputera? Nemu kita kitai mesti betuai ke bumiputera awak ka kitai mesti bisi hak nyadi bumiputera?

They cannot do it without the blessing of the BN.

Aki Manang Empangau

I would support the proposed seminar.

The case of Marina, reminds one of the case of Rosa Park during the American Civil Rights movement. She refuse to be segrated from whites while seating in a bus. It is a defining moment of sorts, in the constitutional sense.More on “defining moment”.

It is important to all Sarawakian from all walks of life to state their views on anything to do with the Constitution (Fed/State) and Sarawak Interpretation Ordinance. It does not suffice to leave this issue to the politicians.

Salang may have wrote his letter. Does anyone know what the letter says ? Is Salang a constitutional law expert ? The same can be said of Jabu. Pledge of rectification, is not the rectification that the thinking public deserve.
Remember that Jabu said he would have to study Shahrizat report on the Penan rape case ? How long has it been ?

Back to the Marina case being a “defining moment”: it is a defining moment for every unfinished issues related to the Federal and Sarawak State Constitutions and Interpretation Ordinance.

The proposed seminar (hope it has enough drive to move ahead) will be time worth spending, when it address the following:-

1.To reaffirm and redefine (if necessary) the term Dayak from a legal and ethnology point of view. Remember the newstory of an obscure small tribe living in the interior of Sarawak, who were not considered a native ?

2.Should Sarawak hold a referendum to amend the Federal and State Constitution to decide on the native status of mixed marriages in the state involving indigenous natives with others (including with Sabah natives and Sino-Kadazan)

3.The proposed seminar would not be complete without discussing the Sarawak 18-point Agreement (Cobbold Commission) and its relation to the present day Fed and State Constitutions.

4.Finally,the seminar will need to be forward looking and be edgy enough to mull the long term outlook of removing Bumiputera and Non-Bumiputera racial segregation.What are the barriers ? What are the price to pay by all races for the ultimate prize of national integration ? Can it be started in Sarawak first ?

The Dayak NGOs and organizations have as much right and responsibility as any of the usual political figures. If the following observated is accepted as true, then the people of Sarawak cannot expect this Marino issue to have speedy resolution:-

1) The Constitutional issue is larger than the political parties care to admit; while BN can use it to highlight the value of its unwavering principle to maintain the Bumiputera and non-Bumiputera apartheid, and the PR can use it to highlight precisely why its long term objective is to erase the archaic divide : I believe neither BN or PR would have the 2/3 parlimentary majority to move forward.Sarawak people has to act and try to move the process forward.

2) I have not heard of any case where a Malaysian Parliment introduces a Private Members Bill and the Speaker would allow it for debate. BN MPs would not allowed the Opposition to introduce the Private Members Bill (they would leave the Dewan in glee..), and the individual BN MPs would not do any of the sort, unless it had been granted by BN component party bosses (race-relation is not a particularly easy subject for these bosses – better to stick with the safe sloganeering like 1Malaysia or F1 song and dance). Besides, Marina case – is confined to Sarawak, which is of no consequence to the rest of 200+ MPs.Again, the Sarawak people as individuals and through NGOs, will need to act as responsible citizen and force the issue to be given the priority it deserved.

3)I would find it hard to believe that that Marina’s experience is unique. As such, I would imagine, many people – officials and politicians alike, must have known about it. But in the past, the solutions must have been, for individual parents to seek audience with the all-powerful politicians to pull their string. Yes, right – even to apply for Native Status to the Native Court, would surely require the signature or thumb print of Penghulu. Smart Sarawakian will surely not want grey areas to be used by some unscruplous people to flex their political influence and for them to demand payment in eternal loyalty for their assistance render to the rakyat.